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The Triangle Magellan Duetto is an excellent speakers inrs terms of sound and build quality. They use a superb magnesium alloy tweeters with superb details and attack. I had the opportunity to audition them in two audio shops and in a high-end audio show. They are just impressive sounding. However, What's HiFi British publication gave it 4/5 stars for sound and build quality. Could this be because the did not allow for 200 hours of use and just being too picky. See review below.
https://www.whathifi.com/reviews/triangle-magellan-duetto-40th
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My general feeling about speaker being burned in. The result in a burned in is real However, the manufacturers of most high-end (expensive) speakers do not burn in at factory, test them all well and then ship. The advantage to consumers is obvious, IMO.
It just goes to show how much grade inflation there is in audio reviews. Now everything is "5 stars", "Class A", "Highly Recommended", etc, and given expectations, getting 4/5 stars is now considered unfair or a bad review.
Sure, there is a lot of good equipment out there that can work in the context of different systems if used properly. But I would love to see more attempts to distinguish components like this.
These days, they usually do not act on behalf of subscribers. Their clients are more important. Meaning more money.
Trust your ears and enjoy.
nt
Of past purchase decisions in a review. For these persons, if a review of owned equipment isn't sufficiently positive, it's either time for new reviewer endorsed product or time for a new reviewer (as we kinda see here).
new!
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
Cables, too.
I'll refrain from further comment. :)
all the best,
mrh
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"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
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"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
I suspect you're onto something. Everyone on here professes to be a diehard live-and-let-live subjectivist until encountering a subjective assessment he disagrees with. At which point the dissenter's opinion is oftentimes impugned for various reasons, most of which can be attributed to the simple fact that there is a difference of (opinion).
This observation seems to have determined the final analysis:
"That horn-loaded tweeter design has many strengths but it isn't as refined, sweet or as pure sounding as many of the high-end alternatives. "
In the end, who cares what they say if you like them?
Spot on E-Stat. A lot of variables. If it sounds good you it is good. Just sayin
Personally I agree with this sentiment. My concern is more about how bad reviews may affect the financial health and well being of the companies that make my gear. It's not as impactful as it was back in my he 80s but still it's a lot of influence in the hands of reviewers often of questionable competence
It becomes all the same, superlatives without meaning, witness Stereophile and TAS.
Sounds like what has happened in youth sports and grading curves in schools. Everyone gets a trophy!
Participation trophies are nothing new. Back in the 60s every little leaguer got one for just being on the team.
And why not? It's supposed to be fun
Maybe in the town/city where you grew up. I imagine that in the 60s it depended on where you lived and probably varied from town to town, otherwise I would have had a shelf full of trophies.
"All thoughts are prey to some beast" - Bill Callahan
"I'll be your mirror
Reflect what you are" - Lou Reed
"Blind belief in authority is the greatest enemy of truth." - Albert Einstein
I grew up in LA.
Well, that explains your getting a trophy back in the 60s! A lot of trendy trends started in CA. ;-)
I actually never got a participation trophy. I didn't participate much in grade school. My next door neighbor played little league baseball and Pop Warner basketball. He had a shelf full of them. And I always admired his trophies.
I did eventually become a pretty good athlete. My first trophy was high school track and field team MVP.
I never scoffed or looked down my nose at my friend's grade school participation trophies. Nothing wrong with rewarding young impressionable kids for getting out there and just trying. And he went on to be our senior player of the year on our high school basketball team.
So I am a strong believer in participation trophies on a grade school level.
Ok back to audio. Cables do they really make a difference? 😇😇😇 Just joking. Of course we all know the indisputable truth about that. We just don't agree on that undisputable truth
I'm pretty sure that if you spent $89,995.00 on 1.5m of Nordost Odin Gold Speaker Cable, something would be different.Just be wary of charm pricing, where a product priced at $89,995.00 seems significantly cheaper than one at $90,000.00, even though it's only by $5.
Edits: 02/21/24
I have no problem with bad reviews that are deserved.
enn tee
all the best,
mrh
My college roommate had a pair of medium-large Klipsch speakers that were part of a disco system that he rented out for frat house parties. I suppose they were an early Heresy version, but not sure. They sucked 50 years ago, and they suck now.
That guy was a natural-born entrepreneur though, and he went on to have a very successful career and life.
. . . in theory, practice and theory are the same; in practice, they are different . . .
really, really, REALLY... cold.
Though, as usual.... funny, ;) or not!
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
Easiest explanation maybe you are not good at evaluating audio equipment or you don't hear well. Or both.
My hearing is pretty good and I am capable of evaluating equipment better than most who claim to be professionals. The reviewer run the speaker for one week, but my experience with the Triangle speakers is they require longer run-in and the use of right cabling and amplifications matching. I own the Comete 40th anniversary and the tweeters sounded different with each speaker cables I tried. I finally found the one that works pretty well in terms of clarity, detail, attack and definition.If you read British publications, they tend to over hype their domestic products. The B&W 805 D4 is sold for about the same price as the Triangle Duetto, yet they gave it five stars. They were demonstrated at the audio show and every one in the room wasn't impressed.
Edits: 02/16/24
If a speaker sounds bad out of the box with run of the mill gear it's a bad speaker.
If a system sounds great at a show it probably is. If it doesn't you don't know why. Never dismiss a product at a show only. There are too many things that can go wrong. It always irks me when reviewers write up a show and say negative things about a product. They don't know what they are talking about.
To each his own (opinion), and while I have been reading WhatHiFi on and off for decades, I find the opinion quite fair for a few reasons... the main ones:Those bookshelf speakers are $7,000.
To quote the article itself:
At this level there is no shortage of alternatives that specialise in uncovering every last detail in a recording.I agree. At $7,000, one has a lot of options. Heck, the stands cost more than most (what most would consider hi-fi) bookshelf speakers.
Note in the same blurb the reviewer notes:
It's much rarer to find anything that makes listening to that music so much of a thrill.I read that as highly recommended, regardless of any x/5.0 stars...
Personally, I think WhatHiFi is really recommending them.
Edits: 02/13/24
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