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Hi, in the latest Stereophile,Jan.24 are the reviews of the Wilson Audio Specialties Sasha V at 48.900 a pair and the Klipsch 9's at !.500 a pair. Without even reading the reviews I went right to John Atkinsons measured frequency responses...page 42,figure 4 and page 81 figure 2.Which one looked better to you? Were they using the same measurement system in both reviews?....take care Mark Korda
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I'll bet that the Willies can play much lower, much louder, much cleaner. Look also at the measured cabinet resonances -- the Klipsch box has a bunch of resonant modes, while the Willies are dead-daddy-dead. The reviewer mentions that the bass of the Klipsch gets "wooly" when you crank the volume.
The Klipsch shows a smoother broadband FR, thanks to use of DSP-based crossover and EQ, but the Willies could certainly be EQ'd that flat externally. They just need another $50+ grand in high-current amplification, to drive them in the style to which they are accustomed. Then you're at 66 times the cost of the internally amplified Klipsches.
What the Wilson's really need are active digital crossovers. But that ain't gonna happen
all one would need to do is buy a threeway digital cover of comparable pedigree, and use three amplifiers of the same ilk, preferably tubes. Wilsons love tubes.
...regards...tr
In principle, I agree with you but it's as easy as you imply.
One needs a suitable digital crossover configured (or configurable) to the specific demands of this particular speaker. Not plug-and-play regardless of pedigree. I'll pass on the tube amps (no pun intended).
It's a matter of beliefs not difficulty.
Hi, like I said I haven't read the reviews yet,just John Atkinsons graph. This is a good example of learning more by having the experts reading between the lines for you. It will make the review more informative to me.There aren't any Hifi stores around here anymore. Thanks you guys....Mark
Easiest thing to correct with digital EQ and/or room correction DSP. Frequency extension, distortion, power handling, impulse response. These are the critical measurements.
yes, things have progressed. Fully agreed with that. It's called progress for a good reason.
But saying that F, (as it was starting the Hi-Fi quest years ago), is like saying the past is no longer prologue. Instruments reproduced properly from an orchestra or amplifier are 'old' thinking and not quite as applicable today. The new ways are much better
The Stradivarius and Stratocaster will have a different sound, who cares, and F is old thinking and not as important.
ALL of the parameters in Audio are important. The measurements people do that reveal the character will come along with time because, as they are right now, - they are incomplete. The Human Ear knows better than that.
You can agree or disagree, but please don't link anything to another website or give me a diatribe on your disagreements. It's just my commentary and opinion, Scott.
It's not like saying that at all. The reason frequency response is the least significant problem isn't because it stopped mattering. It's because it went from being hard to fix to trivially easy to fix.
Of your critical measurements I'd put impulse response at the top.
So would I
The most important factor in making a good recording sound live is dynamic linearity, linear changes in level relative to in put from micro to mini to midi to macro and as consistent as possible over the entire bandwidth and of all your factors impulse response is the one that clearly relates to this.
Edits: 01/07/24 01/07/24
100 %. That is the information that once lost is irretrievable.
I assume your question is rhetorical. John's measurements are among the most exhaustive of any published. The questions are. How do you use them and value each individual one? Which are the most relevant? Are they complete(either known measurements or ones yet to be discovered. Ultimately you still need to listen(without forgetting the measurements). I don't know either speaker. A side by side comparison could be fun.
Didn't look like a rhetorical question to me. But I could be wrong
Spot on
a commonsense response to a rhetorical question.
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