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In Reply to: RE: I am sure Jim Austin is pleased you read Stereophile posted by Doug Schneider on October 13, 2022 at 13:21:17
>You sure the Mission, Simaudio, and Estelon shots on the cover are
>bespoke?
I was referring to the primary product being featured, in this case the
Western Electric amplifier.
John Atkinson
Technical Editor, Stereophile
Follow Ups:
Stock even for those portions of the cover, huh?
I actually miss the old days of print when covers were a VERY important thing -- and, like I said, oftentimes considered art. But then again, the world isn't what it was.
Doug
As stated above, it was somewhat bad form to essentially derail the thread to pick at a competitor. Yet you continue to do so.
It might be time to start your own thread to pursue this course. You could also expand upon what you consider to be proper photography - for those that may be interested.
As stated above, it was somewhat bad form to essentially derail the thread to pick at a competitor. Yet you continue to do so.
I certainly agree. And it's not something you'll ever find the editor of Stereophile doing.
Doug and I once had what I considered a fine relationship; I even took him out once to an NYC jazz club (The Jazz Standard, RIP); he also bought me breakfast once, IIRC, at some midtown diner. But since I've become Stereophile 's editor, it has been impossible not to notice his petty online jabs. Hard to notice, but easy enough to ignore.
Ours a wonderful industry and hobby, and variety is a very fine thing. I'm happy there are many manufacturers, importers, and publications. To me, it is all one. I regret the pettiness, and I will not be taking part.
Jim Austin, Editor
Stereophile
I actually wrote a long note about how the pettiness domain belongs squarely with the Stereophile editorial crew with a number of examples. But then I thought, why bother? So I deleted it.But I hate when half-truths get told.
Jim, you know you're only telling half the story about that breakfast, which I enjoyed by the way. You know that "office politics" came into play. Stereophile has a very long history of petty play that predates you, likely based on a shrinking market and fear of competition -- and continues today.
Have a good day.
Doug
Edits: 10/17/22
Jim, you know you're only telling half the story about that breakfast, which I enjoyed by the way. You know that "office politics" came into play. Stereophile has a very long history of petty play that predates you, likely based on a shrinking market and fear of competition -- and continues today.
Truly, I don't know what you're talking about when you say "half the story about that breakfast." I recall mentioning to John Atkinson, who seemed momentarily alarmed (perhaps you were trying to lure me away?)--but nothing ever happened, and I heard nothing more about it.
In your previous, deleted post, you wrote something about me deleting a Facebook post about our Jazz Standard excursion. I've racked my brain and come up empty: I have no memory of anyone, at any time, asking me to delete a Facebook post.
As for the rest of your (previous, now-deleted) post: I wasn't around then, so I can't be sure; all I can say is thatt it doesn't sound like the colleagues I've come to know well over the last several years, all of whom seem generous and appear to share my sense that we are all in this together--each with our own part to play, but for the greater good. (Indeed, I'm sure I absorbed at least some of my own perspective from my colleagues.) In any case, I can assure you that it does not apply to the current Stereophile, under my leadership.
In the spirit of avoiding pettiness, I do not intend to continue this conversation.
Jim Austin, Editor
Stereophile
John always seems fearful of people being lured away, doesn't he? Not the first time I've heard that -- but we've never actually recruited any Stereophile writers in all those years, nor have we ever intended to. Strange that behavior is -- but that could be where a lot of the well-known Stereophile pettiness -- as your read in my deleted post, there was a lot of that in the past -- directed at many people might stem from. Who knows?Anyway, what you don't recall is conveniently fine. I'm not really concerned at this point.
Thanks,
Doug
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Hi,
My subscription lapsed for a couple of months but when I got it back I received the November Stereophile.I noticed the first letter to the editor was the first negative letter that the new chief let print. Before Jim Austin John Atkinson printed a lot of them.
I was a happy subscriber of Listener.The chief there was Art Dudley for those who didn't know.One of my favorite stories by Art was when on a road trip in upper state New York he stopped at a yard sale and picked up a pair of beat up old Advent 3's.Stereophile is missing stuff like that.With this economy and people struggling to keep some food on the table, and audio reviewers who must let everyone know their middle name and review 60 thousand dollar line preamps, Stereophile could go the way of the dinosaur.
To find out more about a lot of great audio products Stereophile won't touch I've found Steve Guttenberg on line to be a great tool.Listener to me reviewed more obscure but affordable Hifi like Guttenberg does.
What is key to Stereophile to me are John Atkinson's measurements. Without these Stereophile becomes another Absolute Sound.I still really love the mag but this forum lets me chime in so ring a ding ding.Those are my thoughts....thanks . Mark Korda
even got a response from John Atkinson.
So small feat, that. :-)
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