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In Reply to: RE: RESULTS RE: ...why would McGill U., known for medical controlled blind tests posted by Archimago on June 20, 2022 at 00:48:26

Archimago wrote,

"- 3 groups of listeners Expert Listeners (sound recording grad program), Musicians, and Casual Listeners - 10 in each category for total 30 listeners"

>>>>Let's examine these 3 groups more carefully

1. Musicians are noted for playing skill, not listening skill.
2. Casual Listeners are not known for their listening skill at all, that's why they are called "casual listeners."
3. Sound recording grad program (Expert Listeners) are known for their sound recording skill, not sound listening skill.

So we have Total 30 listeners. Big deal. That's supposed to be convincing but it's not It's a logical fallacy.

Follow Ups:

"Musicians are noted for playing skill, not listening skill." LOL! The Catskills beckon. nt nt - Rick W 11:47:21 07/08/22 (6)
nt
- interesting, coming from the logical fallacy himself - Story 12:00:35 07/08/22 (5)
  nothing more to say here
  - You don't even know what a logical fallacy is, Beavis. - geoffkait 12:50:26 07/08/22 (4)
    Get a hairlip.
    - if you say so butthead - Story 13:25:08 07/08/22 (3)
      - Angry young pinhead - geoffkait 14:35:25 07/08/22 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: if you say so butthead posted by Story on July 08, 2022 at 13:25:08
        
        Nt
        
        it's a shame you live for this - Story 15:11:43 07/08/22 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Angry young pinhead posted by geoffkait on July 08, 2022 at 14:35:25
        
        You're obviously projecting. Nt - geoffkait 05:34:28 07/09/22 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: it's a shame you live for this posted by Story on July 08, 2022 at 15:11:43
        
        Nt
RE: Expert Listeners - rt66indierock 07:20:57 06/20/22 (5)
Who do you think has the appropriate listening skills to evaluate an audio format?
- RE: Expert Listeners - geoffkait 08:04:09 06/20/22 (4)
  What are some possible answers?
  1. High end Electronics designers
  2. High end Speaker designers
  3. High end cable designers
  4. Audiophiles with big expensive systems > $100,000
  5. Audiophiles who claim they have excellent hearing
  6. People who test very well on hearing tests 20 to 20k Hz
  7. High end magazine reviewers
  8. Wives of audiophiles
  I'm not (rpt not) saying any of those would be my choice(s)
  
  Edits: 06/20/22 06/20/22 06/20/22
  - RE: Expert Listeners - rt66indierock 12:59:56 06/20/22 (3)
    So who would you pick as expert listeners? Because when you objected to the three groups of listeners in the McGill study you doom a format like MQA. It can't survive in a market as small as high end audio.
    - RE: Expert Listeners - geoffkait 14:34:07 06/20/22 (2)
      Didn't I just answer your question?
      Dr. Doom
      
      Edits: 06/20/22
      - RE: Expert Listeners - rt66indierock 15:48:42 06/20/22 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Expert Listeners posted by geoffkait on June 20, 2022 at 14:34:07
        
        No and I quote "I'm not (rpt not) saying any of those would be my choice(s)"
        
        I would like to hear your choices.
        
        RE: Expert Listeners - geoffkait 16:30:50 06/20/22 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Expert Listeners posted by rt66indierock on June 20, 2022 at 15:48:42
        
        Uh, I thought my list was fairly complete, did I miss anybody?

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