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Seems to be a fairly popular tweak, but are there definitive results?
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the porcelain Cable Lifters that looked like part of a telephone Pole accessory. It did work but not like I thought it would. I have cement foundation with Carpet. From what I remember there was a very slight focus increase. They didn't look good in place so I eventually sold them. I paid around $100 for them new, I did get all my money back when I sold them.
No, I dont subscribe to that "tweak" only reason I could see was for cleaning
I have a small simple "Elfix detector" (Made in Sweden), with a buzzer on it, that can tell if there are power or no power on a line/cable. The sensitivity of the detector can be adjusted.
When I point the detector to the wall behind my sound system and move it around, the amount of radiation from the brick wall varies. About 10cm (ca. 4") from the wall the radiation gets much smaller and therefore I keep, at least, 10cm between all cables and the wall (especially on my unscreened phono cable).
My room is small, with limited space behind the sound system, and the only solution possible was to hang the cables, from threads fixed on long spikes, to keep the cables at a minimum of 10 cm from the wall and each other.
The meter can also tell if the power cable is in the right "phase" in your system. With all cables disconnected, but the power cable, the meter tells witch way the power plug should turn in the power outlet, the one with the lowest radiation reading, from your amps etc., is the right one. It makes a small but significant difference in sound, the music sounds more "real" in the right phase.
House13,
I am not sure if the metal rings around your cables are a good idea, could the field on your cables be affected?
In "The super cables cook book" by Allen Wright he advise not to shorten the ears, found on many cheap RCA connectors, to avoid messing up, at least a small amount, of the field around the cable.
I know, we, all here (?), do not use that kind of cheap RCA's, but it illustrates the point about the field being distorted by a metal around and close to the cable.
...never use a "shortened turn" of the ears ;-)
mojul
Mosul your observation is noted. I do not see this as a concern in my case because I use heavily shielded loudspeaker cables that include a drain wire.
Ferite not 'metal'?
Too much is never enough
I am using the AudioQuest Fog Lifters. Relatively inexpensive and they do actually seem to add a little more detail.
ozzy
absolutely no difference
I still elevate.Back when I ran single-ended cables, it made a difference. NOT a huge difference...but a difference nonetheless.
These days, I run full balanced cabling. As such, there is no audible difference of any sort that I can identify.
But....I still elevate for no other reason than It gets the cable off the floor and makes it easier to vacuum in that end of the room (which is VERY crowded). That and it makes it easier to cross cables when needed and still have a reasonable airgap between.
....sT
Edits: 04/06/23
Has a lot to do with the audio system. For very high resolution systems this is a worthwhile effort. Low res will not hear a difference.
Cable theory can also have an effect on importance. Does the signal move with electromagnetic waves or shifting electrons. If you believe in electromagnetic waves moving through and around the cable, then lifters are important.
This kind of theory is not for the ASR crowd.
I elevate them so it is easier to clean under them. I have a porcelain tile floor over concrete. I use bathroom towel rings. these raise the cables six inches off the floor. The rings themselves keep the cables from moving or sliding off. These are extremely stable.
Good idea and very nice setup!
Neat.
nt
Assuming you're not just joshing then try it both ways.
This has been done to death and draw your own conclusion.
Joe
Yea, nothing in audiophile-land is ever definitive.
Edits: 04/08/23
NT
I do, but can't say I notice a difference. May not help, but can't hurt plus it's cheap/free. I use mostly coffee cups that I picked up free at business trade shows years ago.
I used small Herbie's type rubber pucks under the cables to keep them off the carpet. Sonic improvement? Not immediately apparent, but operating on faith, if nothing else.
FWIW, I've always heard that one has to raise cables up at least 3" or more to get a positive effect. That is if a positive effect is to be had at all.
Have a friend with a high-end system and he swears by them.
Also, it's inexpensive to experiment (if your time is worth, say, what mine is)
with home made riders ala Al Sekela. Links below and more around AA.
Always read Al Sekela's postings on such with interest, he was a level headed
audiophile, practical on many levels and communicated his ideas and experiences
well.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
nt
I've done risers in both systems, one in a carpeted room, one is on tile. To be honest, I'm not sure I hear a significant difference, risers or no risers. Might depend on the cable you're using. Right now I'm using the Chinese Valhalla knock-offs. Very easy to just use the risers in one or two locations because of the stiffness of this ribbon type cable. I like what I'm hearing so I've left well enough alone. Plus I don't have the patience to do an extensive with and with out "riser test". So really inconclusive, but there's never been a cheaper experiment to try and see for yourself. Just grab enough cardboard that you can cut into several 4"x12" pieces. Then bend them in half to create an A-frame that's roughly 6" in height. Give it a shot. If you like what you hear, maybe do something fancier, but don't fall for the ridiculous prices some of the snake oil guys are asking for just a couple risers.
From everything I've gathered | it seems cables | cords only respond to risers when used on uncarpeted floors. As this was my own experience in placing 10 very very heavy ones under my own cabling loom.
I found no audible difference after trying it twice with several months in between. However if one has non carpeted floors, it makes it easier to clean underneath the cables ... ;-)
nothing at all defference
Thanks for the input.
Randy
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