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In Reply to: RE: Tara Labs RSC Vector 2 ICs from AliExpress posted by Roypercy on November 19, 2022 at 21:28:31
What makes you think these aren't fake? You bought them from China the fake capital of the world! Check out the link to Tara's website. Their current and past product list does not include an RSC Vector 2. Terra states that unless you buy from an authorized dealer you are most likely getting a fake. But look on the bright side, according to Tara Labs others have paid up to a $1000 for a fake and it only cost you $33 (which should have been the tip off).
The problem with reverse engineering is that although you may come up with a decent lookalike, without an understanding of the why and how the design including dimensional specs, metrological specs, and manufacturing processes affects the finished product and it's performance in the application all you have is a lookalike with none of the original designer's R & D (trials and failures) that led to the products success.
I spent the last 10 years of my career looking for competent automotive suppliers in China to supply US Automotive manufacturing building cars for the Chinese Market. Many had equipment that looked like top of the line name brand but were reverse engineered machines that performed better than their old 1920's tech stuff they had but was dismally deficient by even 1990s standards. They were poor because you just can't do it that way without knowing the why and wherefore of each detail in the product and process. I did find some super suppliers but they did more than reverse engineer, they took the time to understand all the relationships that yield a quality product.
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Ohhhhh, truth me there was a time when said Tara Labs cabling itself was sourced from either China?, or Taiwan?, as I recall. As are many other so-called made in American brands, I personally don't think for one second that Asian isn't capable of building wonderful sounding cables | electronics | as I've more often than not seen many of their stereo systems which consisted of much more expensive gear than their western counterparts | here I'm talking speakers which retail for $40.000 or more?, now many among us, can say we've invested the same in our speakers?.
As someone whom has in my youth was actually an audio hardware buyer for a few shops here in Michigan, and have traveled the globe way before audio shows became the norm stateside, have visited factories, and came amazed at what others were doing, and being stationed in Japan between 1975-1984, trust me it seem the Japanese had a greater appreciation and understanding of American made tube gear, that many here seemingly wrote off in favor of the quest for more and more power being fooled into buying the concept of transistors | only years later to discover what we had, and eventually lost as it's the American way to achieve power at the expense of anyone standing in its way.
World police | yet there's a day that goes by, that other countries are allowed to look at how many Americans citizens are treated like shit, because of their skin tone, not many what one would've use believe?, the world has always been black and white, hell, without it being so, what you're reading at this very moment, would be written with some other shade of color, onto an odd colored piece of paper, I'm this case, screen.
Reality check indeed.
Fake or real, it doesn't matter, because I bet they will beat any genuine expensive interconnects you have.
So far they absolutely do!
Apparently an audioasylum member bought the real things in 2005 and was impressed for $200:
https://www.audioasylum.com/messages/cables/113384/first-impressions-tara-labs-rsc-vector-2-long
And here's a review from 2005 that mentions both Vector 1 and Vector 2 interconnects:
http://www.soundstagenetwork.com/revequip/taralabs_vector1_cables.htm
So maybe the ones I got are deadstock. Maybe they're fakes. But a Google search quickly shows that they did exist at one point.
Hey, I spent 30 bucks, I have no illusions about their provenance. If they're fakes, they're darn good ones for the money. What I was really trying to convey is that they sound great, and beat a pair of Zu interconnects (that are NOT fakes, bought direct from the company) that cost 10x as much brand new.
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