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Kal,
Is there any ETA on the Buckeye/Purifi 9040 monoblock review ?
Also, are you reviewing the version with the Hypex and/or Micro Audio SMPS ?
Thanks much.
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Power amplifiers: ..., Buckeye Purifi 1ET-9040BA monoblock, in for review.
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I like the look of the Naim Classic 200 Series NAP 250 and for it's 10 grand, well, not outrageous.
There's probably a Class-D amplifier in my future as soon as I get tired of dealing with tube amplifiers.
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They may be more expensive to build and sell, but if you can buy a better sounding, more powerful amplifier for less money, then they are also over priced.
I switched to class-D amplifiers after seeing how expensive class-A/B amplifiers have become.
The last class-A/B amplifier I bought was a Parasound Halo A21 in 2012. I got a pretty good deal from a friend, who was a dealer. However, now the price of the new Parasound Halo A21+ is more than double of the price I paid. I needed a more powerful amplifier for my Thiel CS3.7 speakers when I discovered that PS Audio Stellar monoblock amplifiers were given an "A" rating in Stereophile's Recommended Components . This grabbed my interest immediately, and I bought a pair of their 1200-watt monoblocks. These things were a night-and-day improvement over my Parasound Halo A21. Moreover, PS Audio gave me a 25% discount because I pre-ordered their new M1200 monoblocks before they were officially in production. I got a pair of awesome sounding amplifiers for a very reasonable $4500.
More recently, I bought another pair of class-D monoblock amplifiers for my Mini Maggie speakers because I didn't need so much power. I decided to take a chance on a pair of Hypex Nilai 500 Monoblock amplifiers , which sold for $995 each. It turns out that I got real lucky because these 500-watt monoblocks sound even better than my PS Audio 1200-watt monoblocks.
Anyway, as far as I'm concerned, class-D is the way to go these days. They sound as good if not better than class-A/B amplifiers and they cost less than half the price. I'm overjoyed with the performance of both pairs of class-D monoblock amplifiers I bought.
Happy listening!
John Elison
We want it now.
I'm waiting for mine to arrive.
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My issue came two days ago, I am wanting to read the Buckeye Purifi review, but the woods, mushrooms, and my camera have argued otherwise...
I have an afternoon appointment tomorrow so I have to stay in town, I'll read it with my morning coffee in the morning.
I love my Purifi amp (first gen VTV) it has been interesting watching Buckeye as a small business. If buying today I would certainly give the company serious consideration.
I got a Buckeye 4 channel Hypex NC502MP for my bass panels a couple of months ago -- 1000 watts bridged. Very pleased with it -- no fancy front panel, but I can always have one printed at the drugstore. :-)
I'm thinking of getting the Purifi for my Mini Maggies -- and who knows, if I like it enough, maybe I'll put it on the tweeter, which is currently being driven (absurdly) by an A-21. Hell, after reading Kal's review, maybe I'll put one on the midrange and sell my AHB-2 at a profit.
Let us know if it is a full review or a passing blurb.
TIA
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In the Stereophile January 2025 issue the review article begins on page 77. It is 5 pages long including measurements by JA and a sidebar by Paul Miller on Class D evolution. I read the entire review (rare for me!) but I skimmed over the music that Kal used as I am unfamiliar with it. That's completely on me and others might find it useful.Buckeye PURIFI EIGENTAKT 1ET9040BA1 monoblocks
$2300/pair sold direct includes free shipping in USAMy take under the heading of Inevitable comparisons :
Kal could hardly discern the sonic differences between the Buckeye PURIFI 1ET9040BA1 monoblocks, NAD M23 Master Series PURIFI stereo amp, and his reference two Benchmark AHB2 stereo amps each bridged for monoblock duty.
He mentioned noticing slight differences in bass or treble between the amps upon A/B switching but those impressions were short lived writing, "However, within minutes, none of those impressions remained apparent; only the characteristics of the music and recording mattered, and I never felt the need to change from one amp to another." Kal still prefers his AHB2 "due mostly to matters of ergonomics and familiarity." Kal did mention that the XLR connector on the Buckeye is not a locking XLR so your XLR cable might slip out if you move the amp around. He suggests powering it OFF before moving the amp.
On the tech side :
I read that the Purifi modules require an input board with gain and Buckeye has their own design but there was no detail on it in the articl. VTV on the other hand makes their own input board that allows the buyer to choose from a variety of op-amps and discrete op-amps.... for a price. Buckeye includes a 12v trigger input. VTV offers it.... for a price.
Worth noting from John Atkinson:
The voltage gain at 1kHz into 8 Ohms was very close to the specified figures, at 25.6dB (High), 20.5dB (Med), and 15.5dB (Low).
Buckeye specs the monoblock input impedance as 51K Ohms. JA measured 8.4K Ohms regardless of gain setting. Why the big discrepancy? I have no idea.
[Edit] I think I found the discrepancy. 51k Ohm is the input impedance of the Purifi modules. According to the Buckeye website their custom input board uses a TI TI OPA1656 OP Amp and I'm guessing that the design around this TI Op Amp resulted in an input impedance of 8.4K Ohm as measured by JA.
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I don't see anything on the Buckeye website about using the 1656 op amp (what I see is opa1612)....please post a link. The input impedance of the Purifi module is very low...less than 5K.....not 51K. The input of any amp using a Purifi module is set by the input buffer. Why Buckeye lists 51K and it measures 8.4K is weird. I consider anything less than 50K to not be ideal. You get better sound with 50K and above. Just now modding 9 of these new Purifi modules for someone and I am setting the input impedance to 100K per phase. The Purifi eval boards for the mono modules have 5K per phase.....not good.
Ric, I posted the link below to what I believe is the Buckeye page for their Purifi 1ET9040BA based monoblocks. Scroll down to the Custom I/O Board: heading where he lists the TI OPA1656 OP Amp.[EDIT]: Even the Purifi 1ET9040BA PDF data sheet is a bit confusing. It shows the module gain as 14.4 dB so you're left to assume that the overall gain is due to the op-amp input which has 3 settings. The datasheet also shows the module input Z as 1.5kOhm diff & 1.3kOhm single-ended. I have to assume that the higher input Z in some reviews (and your finding) is from the input of the op-amp and I further assume that it will vary depending on what input resistor values the builder chooses to use??? Big question mark. Do you know how they come up with the real input Z because it's not clear to me.
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Thanks for the update.FWIW, Buckeye usually has a 3 position gain switch. They try to keep the 3 gains consistent so one can mix and match Buckeye Purifi amps with Buckeye Hypex/NCore amps.
You can see the 3 position High/Low/Mid switch on their website image.
They also offer a 3 position trigger switch (Auto, On, 12V).
They do not offer opamp rolling, trying to stay consistent with the OEM reference design.
Case is made in Canada, not Ghent Audio from China like VTV's cases.
From Buckeye's webpage:
Custom I/O Board:
Neutrik XLR connectors
Gold plated 5-way speaker binding posts
Low, Med, High Gain settings
TI OPA1656 OP Amp
TI TPS7A30/49 Voltage Regulators
Auto Sensing On/Off
12v trigger On/Off
Muted soft-start/shutdown (minimizes speaker "pop" when turning on and off)
Clipping Indication (via front power LED)
Error Indication (via front power LED)Gain Settings
4 ohm - 25.5dB/2.9Vrms (High), 20.5dB/5.2Vrms (Medium), 15.5dB/9.2Vrms (Low)
8 ohm - 25.5dB/2.9Vrms (High), 20.5dB/5.2Vrms (Medium), 15.5dB/9.2Vrms (Low)High input gain setting matches up with the input gain of the Hypex amplifiers, perfect for those wanting to mix Purifi amplifiers with Hypex amplifiers (such as for a home theater setup).
RCA vs. XLR
While our amplifiers use XLR inputs, it is perfectly fine (and fully supported by Purifi) for customers to use RCA to XLR cables to connect the amplifier to a source that only has RCA outputs.
Please see our FAQ section for more information if necessary.
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I've been enjoying my Purifi based NAD C298 for about 1.5 years now along with my recent Eversolo DMP-A8 Streamer / DAC / Preamp.I see that VTV has a line of amplifiers based on the latest Purifi modules along with their user customizable input buffer board and discrete op-amps.
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I noticed that they also have one GaN based stereo amp with a single COAX SPDIF input only. Peachtree's first GaN amp had the same limitation. I understand the idea of keeping everything in the digital domain but I prefer an amp that includes traditional stereo XLR and RCA analog inputs.
No sign of my January Stereophile yet.
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Went to our local Borders bookstore.Absolutely every other type of mags except for Audio and Video mags.
The mag section is the same size it always has been.
No more music and movie section either, but you can buy burnt mule piss they call coffee !!!
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I bash Stereophile (and The Absolute Sound) quite often but there ARE a few reviews that are worth reading. I'll be looking in my mail for Stereophile to arrive hopefully soon.Burnt mule piss! LoL
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I very much doubt that Stereophile would review such an amplifier.
I think they wouldn't consider a brand that sells direct and builds to customers' requirements, so quality may vary from amp to amp. They tend (quite rightly in my view) to review only "mainstream" product where one can expect every one to perform identically. They used to have a policy that review products should be available from at least XX dealers, though I can't recall what the number was.
Their review of the NAD M33 that uses the Purifi technology was exceptionally good and the M33 went on to be chosen as their Amplifier of the Year, overall Component of the Year and Editors' Choice - perhaps the only device that has ever picked up all three awards.
That has not been the case for many years.
Veneration does not = modern business stability.
Yet Stereophile always was willing to indulge the hieratic, hermetic, and the "masterpiece" that only has sold 2 units so far. Esoteric audio.
So the # of dealers angle is just an up-front weed-out. Not an actual rule.
People who have sided more with the DIY side have been made legends in their pages, so it can't be the DIY aspect.
I wonder what the trouble could be? Could it be, that this power amp trend can't be controlled either by the existing industry nor by the existing commentariat outside of ASR?
Yeah.
/ optimally proportioned triangles are our friends
FWIW, Stereophile has reviewed other single-source products including multiple products from the same single source supplier.Buckeye has the same in-house analyzer (Audio Precision) that ASR uses for all of its testing which gives them the ability to validate their designs and products.
Buckeye has stated they have over 4,000 unique customers to date, so they have a fair bit of experience delivering product.
E.g.
Okto dac8 Stereo D/A processor
https://www.stereophile.com/content/okto-dac8-stereo-da-processor
Okto Research dac8 PRO D/A processor
https://www.stereophile.com/content/okto-research-dac8-pro-da-processor
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Just wish they would have put better thought into the connections at the Speaker posts.
That is easy enough to change.
I think they do it this way is for easy parts swaps vs soldering and desoldering.
They are flexible with some configurations such as putting stereo parts in a larger case for future proofing should the user later want to add a 3rd channel.
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