In Reply to: Informal results - almost a three-way tie between the two (I said it was informal) posted by Duke on March 15, 2007 at 19:37:07:
To deviously attempt to negate my obvious assertion that the stereo sweet spot is most important for two-channel audiophiles, you devised a slanted biased almost evil question that gave two EXTREME choices for the answer:
-- Either the sweet spot is ALL that matters, or it is not.This biased writing style is just like G. W. Bush blathering: "Either you support me, or you support our enemy!"
Well the sweet spot is VERY important for me (90%) but even I couldn't literally say I ONLY care about the sweet spot! So to be literal when answering your slanted biased devious so-called polling question, even I would have to say no to the question (because I'm at the 90% sweet spot / 10% other seats level, not at 100% sweet spot!!!).
Since the mid-1960's when stereo showed up, audiophiles who have been interested in improving the sound quality of their stereos realized that they had to sit equal distances from the two speakers to hear the correct stereo image. Usually only one listener could hear the optimum stereo image at a time.
If the seats were located far from the speakers, two side-by-side seats could fit into that stereo sweet spot, even though each listeners' ears were not exactly equal distances from the speakers. Close enough for government work.
While audiophiles may sometimes do other things while listening, and sometimes sit away from the sweet spot, WHEN they are focused on sound quality, either for themselves or demonstrating the stereo to a friend, they make sure the listener sits with his ears equal distances from the speakers, or darn close to that!
That's the sweetest spot for every two-channel stereo.
When audiophiles buy new components, or tweak their systems, they do so to improve the sound quality at the best seat in their house -- the sweet spot.
It may not be the only seat they are concerned about -- there may be another seat right next to it so both are in the sweet spot.
If the speakers are quite far away, perhaps three people on a couch will all fit into the sweet spot, although I've only experienced this once in 40 years as an audiophile.
It would be a bizarre two-channel audiophile who optimizes his system for a seat that is not equal distances from the two speakers. Bizarre because optimizing the sound quality for a seat outside of the two-channel (equal, or close to equal, distances from both speakers) sweet spot is an oxymoron.
It would be rather interesting to find a two-channel audiophile who has spent $1000's on expensive wires ... yet for serious listening usually does not sit with his ears equal distances from his two stereo speakers. You perhaps?
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Richard BassNut Greene
Subjective Audiophile 2007
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Follow Ups
- Your slanted ridiculous question = biased answers. How many people optimize sound quality for a non-sweet-spot seat? - Richard BassNut Greene 07:17:30 03/16/07 (14)
- Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bass bin! - John Ashman 08:15:18 03/17/07 (1)
- Hey my last DIY subwoofer was so big that I included a spare bedroom inside - Richard BassNut Greene 10:29:40 03/18/07 (0)
- Also, don't put words in my mouth. - Duke 09:36:01 03/16/07 (1)
- If I really WAS putting words in your mouth, then your posts would make more sense! - Richard BassNut Greene 10:17:07 03/18/07 (0)
- Do you or do you not admit... - Duke 09:11:38 03/16/07 (9)
- Two channel stereo sounds best when the left ear to left speaker distance equals the right ear to right speaker distance - Richard BassNut Greene 14:31:08 03/16/07 (8)
- Richard, stop putting words in my mouth. - Duke 15:38:27 03/16/07 (7)
- I just wrote you judged speakers from the next room to give you a hard time in "how important is the sweet spot" issue - Richard BassNut Greene 07:45:27 03/17/07 (6)
- I do the same...... - John Ashman 08:18:50 03/17/07 (5)
- I suspected that, given your comments on the little NHTs - Duke 19:16:12 03/19/07 (0)
- Judging speaker sound quality from another room makes as much sense as weighing them & buying the heaviest speakers! - Richard BassNut Greene 10:52:44 03/18/07 (3)
- Not really a good analogy - Duke 18:45:20 03/19/07 (0)
- I don't think you're understanding... - John Ashman 18:28:35 03/18/07 (1)
- You say it's a music lover's trick -- sounds more like a stupid pet trick to me - Richard BassNut Greene 07:47:24 03/23/07 (0)