Home Speaker Asylum

General speaker questions for audio and home theater.

Yeah, yeah, we know you don't like Canadian speakers, Harman International speakers, etc.

"But THINK about that -- what is the desired goal -- to illustrate how the speaker will likely perform in a "typical room." Well gee using basic logic if you have one of these "typical rooms" then the measurement you get will ALSO be reasonable for other "typical rooms." This is especially true of speakers that are designed with room boundries in mind and not speakers trying to escape from room boundries."

Not entirely is that the goal of anechoic measurements. It is not to illustrate how they sound in a typical room but to enable one to predict how they can sound in typical listening rooms.

"Well gee using basic logic if you have one of these "typical rooms" then the measurement you get will ALSO be reasonable for other "typical rooms."

This remark is patently silly. You have a strange idea of logic. The speakers will sound different in different set ups, particularly as the frequency gets lower. Reasonably well set up, the midrange and highs can sound similar. But one would never know about all this without doing both anechoic measurements and room response measurements.

Paradigm, PSB, Energy, Mirage, Revel and others in fact do take account of how speakers sound in listening rooms. That was one of the main objectives in Dr. Toole's research.

Speaker manufacturers don't always know how to place their speakers to best advantage. Art Dudley found the Audio Note E sounded better away from the corner!

The Klipschorn Corner Horns and the Allison Three were really designed to be put in corners. The Allison One and Allison Four were designed to go against a wall. Some of the older Boston Acoustics speakers were designed to be place back against a wall. Anyway, the usual measurements done by Stereophile and the NRC are useful for accounting for that, but as always, they need interpretation.

"Well listening can tell you this. And again why are the confusing the issue with a measurement that will never be relevant -- why even show the speaker in isolation -- no speaker is developed for such a purpose?"

Just because you can't use the quasi-anechoic measurement graphs of the Quads shown in Stereophile doesn't mean no one else can. They may not be relevant for you but they may be relevant for others.
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