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Music Lane It's all about the music, dude! Sit down, relax and listen to some tunes. |
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Music Lane It's all about the music, dude! Sit down, relax and listen to some tunes. |
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In Reply to: Re: I was not forming opinions about your intelligence posted by newyorkp7 on December 31, 2006 at 03:19:34:
The "bar musician" comment, IMO, shows a lack of understanding that not all clubs are created equal. I subbed for a student of mine once in his rock n' roll bar band at a little dive in Indiana once. I'll never do that scene again. I should have known better--he had shown me photos of the band hanging out with topless chicks on a break once before. That wasn't happening on the gig I did, but the sleazeballs-on-meth meat-market vibe was stomach-turning. To me, that is the life of a "bar musician". Even third-rate jazz joints are well above this kind of thing.The first time I ever heard anyone make a distinction about "real" jazz clubs versus the majority of places that are out there today, it was from Ira Sullivan who was pining that the young guys in his band had never experienced the real thing until they started playing with him. "Wow, this is a REAL jazz club, isn't it, Mr. Sullivan?", they would say during set-up. There are a lot of musicians in Chicago who will tell you that the Green Mill is not really a jazz club, but a place to be seen. I would say it depends on the night, but that is often true. Most musicians in Chi agree that Andy's is mainly a tourist attraction where people go to hear safe, conservative music and say they went to a "jazz club". Still, these places are a world away from the rock "bar musician" scene I described above.
The Jazz Showcase, Catalina, The Vanguard, etc., are in yet a totally different eschelon again. These places feature world-class artists in a rarefied environment, albeit with liquor, food, or both. Are you really prepared to call Joe Lovano, Pat Martino, or Ray Brown "bar musicians"? Pretty ballsy, I would think.
The point is, not all "bars" are created equal, just like not all "concert halls" are created equal--a whole different diatribe, but consider a rock, jazz, and classical concert environment and tell me the expectations are the same because it's a "concert". There's a lot more finesse required here.
dh
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- Perhaps a finer distinction is in order. - D Harvey 07:03:51 12/31/06 (0)
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