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In Reply to: RE: "... as one stupid phrase succeeded another... in the most idiotic manner." posted by peppy m. on November 19, 2024 at 22:17:21:
Obviousness of the music: it's hackneyed, without distinction, sounding lazy, as if not much effort was required to come up with it. Yes, I realize that I've just added other words to my original use of "obviousness". But perhaps that rounds out the descriptor a bit more?Stupid music: it's the type of music that anyone with half a brain could think of. For instance, some of the music was a feeble attempt at humor - but the attempt sounded no better (IMHO - remember, we're being subjective here!) than what was composed for zillions of "humorous" TV commercials from the 50's.
Idiotic manner: the attempt to pad an already stupid musical phrase with low quality sequences and repetition, possibly combined with all too obvious (there's that word again!) orchestration - e.g., one phrase played by a solo piccolo, the next phrase played by a bass (B-flat) tuba. Yeah, that's real wit - not! And besides, it's been used innumerable times by other composers
However, the whole discussion may all boil down to a similarity to Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart's definition of "pornography" (in a 1964 decision): "I know it when I see it!" In the case of Shostakovitch's musical defects, I know them when I hear them! ;-)
BTW, have you heard the music in question yourself? Do you have an opinion on it?
EDIT: I just realized that you didn't seem too interested in the definition of "godawful CRAP". But maybe you're familiar with that concept already? ;-)
Edits: 11/20/24
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Follow Ups
- Touche - I see what you're doing! - Chris from Lafayette 01:14:28 11/20/24 (4)
- Shostakovitch - Zarlino 18:54:42 11/20/24 (1)
- Zarlino - I VERY much appreciate your post! - Chris from Lafayette 01:08:27 11/21/24 (0)
- Have not listened to the music referenced in a long time. Not a Shosty fan myself.... - peppy m. 08:06:11 11/20/24 (1)
- In this case, you have to wipe your ears! [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 11:14:18 11/20/24 (0)