In Reply to: Deceptive turntable sale posted by lincolnbest2002 on August 4, 2010 at 21:40:03:
I have extensive experience on Audiogon under the same user name, viridian. Obviously, we all assume a degree of calculated risk when purchasing used gear. That risk is increased because the gear must often be shipped and, in some cases, without it's original packing and double boxing. When you assume risk, by nature, there will sometimes be an adverse result.
The seller may, or may not, have sent you a broken turntable on purpose. It is unclear if he intentionally shipped defective gear or if the shipping company messed it up. A guy selling 12K pieces of gear is rarely interested enough in your $300.00 to go through the hassle on purpose. But stranger things have happened. Turntables and large speakers are the two objects most likely to get broken in shipping. All audio gear should ALWAYS be double boxed with the inner box being the original shipping carton. ALWAYS! In the future, insist on it and pay for the extra couple of pounds. How amazing it is that buyers cheap out and shippers are too lazy to take the time to do the best packing job that they can. It will save you a world of grief. On the other hand, in some sense, it does not matter. Audiogon requires that the piece get to the buyer in the condition specified in the ad. If it does not - and did not in this case - then the onus is on the seller. The seller did not accept responsiblity and Audiogon acted responsibly and appropriately by banning him. Though as you surmise, he will probably turn up on the site again with a different IP address, if he has not already done so. I suppose that it may be fraud and you could contact the State Attourney General in Arizona if you wish to pursue the issue. A positive outcome seems remote and that is the chance that we all take when buying used gear. It has happened to me on several occasions, but that's the cost of doing business. At this point, your best bet may be to see if you can purchase a new plinth, belt, manual and interconnects. The importer may just help you out a bit. Why not contact them?
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- A few observations.................................................................... - viridian 21:40:48 08/09/10 (0)