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In Reply to: under declare? That is customs, not insurance. posted by Duilawyer on July 4, 2008 at 09:33:16:
No B.S. here. You should have your detector re-calibrated.
It is a simple rule--the USPS, UPS, FedEx, any international shipper, is not allowed to insure a package for more than its declared value. So, by asking me to declare the package at $50, the buyer (as I explained to him prior) was asking me also to insure the package for no more than $50. He understood this, and I have his emails that document his understanding. I didn't get anything from under-declaring/under-insuring, because our agreement was that the buyer was paying all shipping costs. I had no incentive to under-declare/under-insure other than to please the buyer.
The choice of amount of insurance doesn't involve lying or telling the truth--it is the choice of the customer based on the value of the package, the risks involved in shipping the item, and the risk preferences of the customer.
The lie was to customs in Thailand (to which the package never arrived), because the buyer asked me to lie. This is a common request from international buyers. I put myself in a somewhat precarious position on the buyer's behalf, so that he could save some money on import duties, and I assumed he would be a stand up guy and recognize my kindness were something to go wrong. I was wrong in my assumption. Instead, he took the opportunity to accuse me of trying to steal $500 from him when the package was lost.
I made a mistake when I under-declared, but there was no malice involved. I was doing it at the request of the buyer. The other mistake I made was assuming the buyer was an upstanding guy who recognized the position he was asking me to put myself in and wouldn't take advantage of it if something went wrong. Instead he proved himself to be a common jackass.
Louis
P.S. I won't even go into how absurd the scenario would have to be in order for me to have accomplished such a theft, while providing the documentation from the USPS as to shipment, inquiry, and claims. Give me a break. I may be guilty of breaking a customs law somewhere, but not of trying to steal $500 from some prick in Thailand.
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Follow Ups
- You can't insure for more than you declare. - lrcordell 10:29:18 07/04/08 (5)
- I can't believe in one post you claim "no b.s. here", then "the lie was to" - Duilawyer 12:34:48 07/04/08 (0)
- the customs declarations were for both export and import - Duilawyer 12:25:14 07/04/08 (0)
- "..The lie was to customs in Thailand.." should read "I lied to.." - Duilawyer 12:20:51 07/04/08 (1)
- You didn't "catch" anything - lrcordell 16:59:52 07/04/08 (0)
- the insurance inures to your benefit, not his. That was your mistake. - Duilawyer 12:17:40 07/04/08 (0)
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