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No one needs blind tests of speakers to know what they hear with accuracy -- speakers are subjective

Posted by Richard BassNut Greene on April 8, 2007 at 16:16:11

In Reply to: Re:These are the most favorably reviewed speakers in the history of audio. Jeez Richard, that's rather subjectisvist. posted by AJinFLA on April 8, 2007 at 10:15:55:

What proof do you have? I don't want to hear about subjetivist rantings, audiophool hearsay and "ear witness" testimony.
RG
If you can't accept the consistently positive subjective reviews of Orion speakers from a wide variety of audiophiles, including non-Golden Ear DIY speaker builders, at a wide variety of websites, as good anecdotal evidence of a superior speaker, then you need another hobby.
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Whoa. Hang on a second there tough guy. A dipole (such as the Orion) is *pre* equalized as an integral part of the design, for flat anechoic response, in the same way that eq must be applied to a horn tweeter to correct the response.
RG
Orions have significant electronic EQ which is included in the price.
It should be acceptable to compare Orions with EQ'd monopoles.
If EQ is acceptable for the Orions, then it would be acceptable for other speakers. I suppose Golden Ears who just hate EQ might want to avoid Orions.
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Do keep in mind that SL now uses the Thor's full time to address the real weakness of dipole bass, which is pressurising the room at very low frequency (<40hz). I believe the system Kerr heard was the full monty ++ which is full range dipole above 50hz and monopole below (cardioid at xo).
RG
I had not looked at Linkwitz's website for quite a while and thank you for the link. I had been under the impression that Linkwitz used a pair of dipole subwoofers at home based on a picture at his website. One looked like a plant stand. It would be a foolish engineering decision to use a monopole subwoofer with dipole main speakers, unless the much lower cost of monopole bass was an object.

Depending on room dimensions, and the crossover frequency, the monopole subwoofer may excite one or two room bass resonances more a dipole subwoofer would. Why would that be a good thing to do when you prefer monopole bass?
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Richard BassNut Greene
Subjective Audiophile 2007

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