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From the horses mouth comes nothing I want on me.

Posted by tomservo (M) on April 6, 2007 at 15:52:52

In Reply to: here you go posted by tunenut on April 6, 2007 at 13:22:51:

Well this is perfect, it has been a while since I checked out how things were, sounds like a change of winds. It must have been a real blow when in spite of all the effort they went to make the experiments “correct”, that it wouldn’t be replicated nearly as strongly in independent tests.
Sadly, that too is part of being accepted into the “big book of scientific facts”, what ever it is, has to be reproducible when exactly replicated by in an independent test.
Can you say it looks like “Cold fusion” boys and girls (maybe) in a Mr. Rogers voice.

Yet, the very phenomena they were researching may have affected the results.
They say
“To borrow a fluid mechanical metaphor, it is as if the influence of the operator intention now was manifesting itself as a structural “turbulence” in the output data of the replication, rather than a more orderly displacement of the data streams as was found in the prior PEAR studies.”

So, for some people, sometimes, they seem to be able to influence random events, to a degree which rises above statistical significance.
The replication tests did not show as much human influence as the PEAR tests, much less, yet the PEAR test methodology was mostly proper.

So, here is a “what if” that will play well in some hifi places, what if all it takes is having a “skeptic” around to bum out the effect?
This study says at a level just above randomness there is an effect, correlated to what is more of an issue. As applied "full time" Sounds possibly like a very slight anti “Murphy’s law” transform for DSPing all life’s problems away, or a way to amplify Murphy's law types of events.

Or, an alternate theory, Lets say all the data is right but the conclusion was wrong.
What if this is a rare gift and actually none of the subjects had any power and only one of the original PEAR staff (who wanted to show this effect) turned out to be the only one having any influence, but, they were not involved (or even pissed off) during the replication test?
What if I stopped, yeah that’s it.
Best,

Have a Good Friday to all who subscribe. <><

Tom Danley

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