In Reply to: I am talking about degree of applicability... posted by Wellfed on March 13, 2007 at 16:55:58:
I would say a not so little gremlin. It is easier to deal with if one is well grounded in what real unamplified music sounds like (ie. frequent live exposure) but still one must be on guard.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - "Only 1% Jim"? - (A reply to a posting by Jim Austin.) - May Belt 05:09:54 03/11/07 (145)
- May, you are a nutty gal!! Psych 101 got nothin' on you! - morricab 09:48:25 03/13/07 (8)
- You know, the placebo effect IS fascinating... - Wellfed 12:50:58 03/13/07 (3)
- Re: You know, the placebo effect IS fascinating... - morricab 15:20:24 03/13/07 (2)
- I am talking about degree of applicability... - Wellfed 16:55:58 03/13/07 (1)
- Re: I am talking about degree of applicability... - morricab 02:54:09 03/14/07 (0)
- Your condescension is duly noted. nt - clarkjohnsen 12:04:17 03/13/07 (3)
- Great!!! I was afraid you weren't clever enough to catch it. LOL!! - morricab 15:18:27 03/13/07 (2)
- Your condescension -- is it incurable? nt - clarkjohnsen 09:20:24 03/14/07 (1)
- Clever boy, now run along cure us all of our tuo fo esahp soerets - morricab 10:11:52 03/14/07 (0)
- It makes a lot more sense for these Intelligent Chip users to place them on their own heads (nt) - AJinFLA 15:05:48 03/12/07 (0)
- Is "what we perceive MUST be real"? e.g. tube vs SS? - cheap-Jack 12:40:51 03/12/07 (6)
- There is a measrable difference. e.g. tube vs SS - Tweekeng 20:20:26 03/12/07 (3)
- Ah! Russ Hamm to the podium. Perhaps the last real paper published in JAES, where... - clarkjohnsen 12:06:34 03/13/07 (2)
- Be nice! Let me respond to it. (nt) - cheap-Jack 12:22:13 03/13/07 (1)
- Huh? nt - clarkjohnsen 12:45:59 03/13/07 (0)
- Re: Is "what we perceive MUST be real"? e.g. tube vs SS? - morricab 16:52:13 03/12/07 (0)
- Re: Is "what we perceive MUST be real"? e.g. tube vs SS? - tomservo 15:06:36 03/12/07 (0)
- Re: "it sounds as if I'm finding more and more detail" - KlausR. 04:49:20 03/12/07 (42)
- The "rigid, blinkered approach" is your prerogitive obviously... - Wellfed 12:34:07 03/12/07 (35)
- Re: The "rigid, blinkered approach" is your prerogitive obviously... - KlausR. 09:18:16 03/13/07 (12)
- I have no problem whatsoever with scepticism... - Wellfed 11:01:58 03/13/07 (11)
- Bonello and Schroeder - KlausR. 01:11:07 03/15/07 (9)
- Thanks for the info Klaus... - Wellfed 07:39:56 03/15/07 (8)
- Re: Meaningful comparison - KlausR. 01:02:53 03/16/07 (7)
- In any event... - Wellfed 14:51:45 03/16/07 (6)
- Re: In any event... - KlausR. 05:45:43 03/17/07 (5)
- I'd really love to hear your setup one day. [nt] - Wellfed 11:00:07 03/17/07 (4)
- You're welcome any time - KlausR. 02:30:20 03/18/07 (3)
- I'm a firm believer in... - Wellfed 06:26:31 03/18/07 (2)
- Don't wait too long or... - KlausR. 11:17:18 03/18/07 (1)
- I haven't been to the Netherlands since '85... - Wellfed 11:54:31 03/18/07 (0)
- What exactly is "enough 'evidence' for me to investigate a given product"? That's easy! - clarkjohnsen 12:16:40 03/13/07 (0)
- Extraordinary talk from the Chickenhawk (nt) - AJinFLA 15:19:45 03/12/07 (0)
- "improved system performance to an EXTRAORDINARY level." - clifff 13:36:10 03/12/07 (20)
- What did you see after having read the whole saga?... - Wellfed 18:10:10 03/12/07 (19)
- I'll speak for myself, Pat. - clifff 07:48:31 03/13/07 (16)
- Re: I'll speak for myself, Pat. - Ken Perkins 10:26:47 03/13/07 (13)
- What were the JREF rules I was unwilling to abide by?... - Wellfed 11:41:03 03/13/07 (5)
- Simple - Ken Perkins 13:21:30 03/13/07 (3)
- That is simple... - Wellfed 13:34:10 03/13/07 (2)
- Re: That is simple... - Ken Perkins 13:51:10 03/13/07 (1)
- The test didn't fall apart because Kramer was unwilling or unable to negotiate in good faith?... - Wellfed 14:50:43 03/13/07 (0)
- That's a pretty fair summary, from my watchful POV. nt - clarkjohnsen 12:10:21 03/13/07 (0)
- A good summary - clifff 10:42:09 03/13/07 (6)
- Plenty more, actually... - Wellfed 11:12:57 03/13/07 (5)
- Wellfed, by the time this "lie" was uttered - clifff 11:34:26 03/13/07 (4)
- My ego is secure Cliff... - Wellfed 12:13:45 03/13/07 (3)
- It must be comforting to feel so righteous. nt - clifff 13:08:20 03/13/07 (1)
- It is comforting to BE so righteous... - Wellfed 13:29:48 03/13/07 (0)
- "Kramer's call for me to have my back to the system." Might just as well... - clarkjohnsen 12:39:54 03/13/07 (0)
- "Now" I seem hung up that Kramer lied to me?... - Wellfed 09:36:17 03/13/07 (1)
- "the JREF Challenge is a hoax perpetrated on humanity." Indeed so, and documentation of that exists... - clarkjohnsen 12:37:21 03/13/07 (0)
- Re: What did you see after having read the whole saga?... - Pat D 06:40:25 03/13/07 (1)
- Are you truly willing to listen? [nt] - Wellfed 09:13:45 03/13/07 (0)
- Klaus, What I find fascinating... - Jim Austin 10:59:13 03/12/07 (4)
- We would not be here today had our senses not developed to allow us to perceive threats. - Norm 06:32:34 03/13/07 (0)
- Re: whatever we perceive must be real - KlausR. 03:08:43 03/13/07 (0)
- Think about the context of discovery - Lambda 12:02:16 03/12/07 (1)
- This is what we should go after..."unobservable forces" ! - cheap-Jack 13:21:34 03/12/07 (0)
- Re: "it sounds as if I'm finding more and more detail" - john curl 09:25:45 03/12/07 (0)
- Sam Tellig tried the Intelligent Chip and didn't hear a thing - Lambda 12:23:46 03/11/07 (71)
- Explanation: (1) His system lacks resolution (2) Did not allow enough burn-in (3) He's deaf (4) Insert...(nt) - AJinFLA 09:20:12 03/12/07 (1)
- Re: Explanation: (1) His system lacks resolution (2) Did not allow enough burn-in (3) He's deaf (4) Insert...(nt) - Dan Banquer 10:23:18 03/12/07 (0)
- Re: Sam Tellig tried the Intelligent Chip and didn't hear a thing - May Belt 15:44:32 03/11/07 (1)
- You should mention it on your website (nt) - Lambda 18:54:47 03/11/07 (0)
- Re: Sam Tellig tried the Intelligent Chip and didn't hear a thing - john curl 14:41:27 03/11/07 (2)
- Re: Sam Tellig tried the Intelligent Chip and didn't hear a thing - john curl 16:10:21 03/11/07 (0)
- It depends. - Jim Austin 14:59:55 03/11/07 (0)
- For what it's worth... - Jim Austin 12:38:57 03/11/07 (63)
- Re: For what it's worth... - May Belt 04:17:11 03/12/07 (25)
- A very simple question - Jim Austin 11:01:48 03/12/07 (24)
- ambiguity in the word "real" - tunenut 17:17:46 03/13/07 (10)
- Re: ambiguity in the word "real" - Jim Austin 17:55:51 03/13/07 (9)
- Re: ambiguity in the word "real" - May Belt 10:18:40 03/14/07 (8)
- I believe you have taken the first step in science - tunenut 17:46:29 03/14/07 (0)
- It's simpler than that. - Jim Austin 12:01:27 03/14/07 (6)
- Re: It's simpler than that. - Posy Rorer 18:13:33 03/19/07 (3)
- Re: It's simpler than that. - john curl 00:23:28 03/20/07 (0)
- Re: It's simpler than that. - Jim Austin 20:17:23 03/19/07 (1)
- Re: It's simpler than that. - Posy Rorer 00:36:45 03/21/07 (0)
- Re: It's simpler than that. - May Belt 14:06:11 03/14/07 (1)
- Thanks May - Jim Austin 15:11:01 03/14/07 (0)
- Re: A very simple question - May Belt 16:22:22 03/12/07 (12)
- "Klaus comes over as believing that Peter and I are so shallow and so stupid." Relax, May, he thinks that of... - clarkjohnsen 12:35:39 03/13/07 (1)
- No, Clark - Jim Austin 16:01:05 03/13/07 (0)
- Re: A very simple question - Jim Austin 06:05:46 03/13/07 (9)
- Re: A very simple question - May Belt 16:10:59 03/13/07 (8)
- Overdetection of differences - Pat D 07:48:27 03/14/07 (0)
- Re: A very simple question - tigweld 21:31:39 03/13/07 (3)
- The Belt theory puts forth... - Wellfed 23:43:17 03/13/07 (2)
- Re: The Belt theory puts forth... - tigweld 08:01:35 03/14/07 (1)
- Who's to know?... - Wellfed 09:27:35 03/14/07 (0)
- I understand it beter now - Jim Austin 16:27:44 03/13/07 (2)
- Re: I understand it beter now - May Belt 11:30:44 03/14/07 (0)
- BTW - Jim Austin 16:29:50 03/13/07 (0)
- Re: For what it's worth... - May Belt 15:42:39 03/11/07 (13)
- Relax, May. It's "THAT experience" that they always must fall back on. Not likely to change. nt - clarkjohnsen 11:20:00 03/12/07 (0)
- Re: For what it's worth... - john curl 16:15:21 03/11/07 (3)
- Re: For what it's worth... - May Belt 04:18:48 03/12/07 (0)
- What were some of her tweaks... - Wellfed 16:27:52 03/11/07 (1)
- Re: What were some of her tweaks... - john curl 16:31:07 03/11/07 (0)
- When are we going to sit down and discuss the subject rationally ? - clifff 16:11:44 03/11/07 (7)
- You mean with a psychiatrist? Never. (nt) - AJinFLA 15:09:48 03/12/07 (0)
- Re: When are we going to sit down and discuss the subject rationally ? - andy19191 04:51:27 03/12/07 (5)
- Regarding audio, I'll take experience over explanation any day of the week... - Wellfed 23:49:26 03/12/07 (4)
- Re: Regarding audio, I'll take experience over explanation any day of the week... - andy19191 00:27:24 03/13/07 (3)
- What is the objective domain?... - Wellfed 09:12:08 03/13/07 (2)
- Scientific method, testing and peer review. - clifff 11:09:56 03/13/07 (1)
- So why don't those fellows fulfill their mission statement? [nt] - Wellfed 11:42:43 03/13/07 (0)
- Re: For what it's worth... - john curl 14:44:49 03/11/07 (22)
- So, first you criticize me for NOT listening... - Jim Austin 14:58:17 03/11/07 (21)
- Re: So, first you criticize me for NOT listening... - john curl 16:17:02 03/11/07 (20)
- JREF owes you a $million JC. Don't be a chickenhawk like Wellfed and go collect it. - AJinFLA 17:30:57 03/11/07 (19)
- Re: JREF owes you a $million JC. Don't be a chickenhawk like Wellfed and go collect it. - john curl 18:05:25 03/11/07 (18)
- Trap? I find your lack of faith disturbing. - AJinFLA 18:36:46 03/11/07 (17)
- The JREF Challenge is not real... - Wellfed 22:10:48 03/11/07 (16)
- Not in Wonderland, no. Nothing is. Cluck cluck cluck...(nt) - AJinFLA 15:17:33 03/12/07 (0)
- You and I both learned something - kerr 09:26:19 03/12/07 (8)
- Game being the key word here... - Wellfed 09:27:58 03/12/07 (7)
- "but I would definitely like to avoid any notoriety at least until after this event." Too late :-) - AJinFLA 17:00:44 03/12/07 (3)
- I realize putting these bits in their proper context is too much for you... - Wellfed 17:19:21 03/12/07 (2)
- Yes, of course Kramer, etc. is to blame, not your fear of having the delusional bubble burst for all to see - AJinFLA 19:44:35 03/12/07 (1)
- Why would Kramer lie?... - Wellfed 20:35:22 03/12/07 (0)
- If you were to re-apply... - kerr 09:36:19 03/12/07 (2)
- I'd prefer the billing to be... - Wellfed 10:37:46 03/12/07 (1)
- Well, you know what they say - kerr 13:07:49 03/12/07 (0)
- Conspiracy ? - Lambda 07:39:14 03/12/07 (4)
- I think the parsimonius answer... - Wellfed 10:29:43 03/12/07 (3)
- Most of us still love ya Michael. nt - clarkjohnsen 11:11:50 03/12/07 (2)
- If you love truth... - Wellfed 11:56:43 03/12/07 (1)
- You forgot to capitalize your T waffleguy (nt) - AJinFLA 15:23:37 03/12/07 (0)
- Cluck, cluck, cluck - AJinFLA 03:30:57 03/12/07 (0)
- Re: Pleasantville - geoffkait 11:44:53 03/11/07 (5)
- aka Strawmanville - tunenut 13:17:58 03/11/07 (3)
- Or Jonestown, without the Kool-Aid (nt) - Dave Pogue 14:48:15 03/11/07 (2)
- go ahead, have some kool-aid - tunenut 10:37:25 03/12/07 (0)
- PING soulfood... - Wellfed 16:30:44 03/11/07 (0)
- And in Flatland everybody is a polygon of fixed size. Then one day... - clarkjohnsen 12:06:26 03/11/07 (0)
- In short: "Don't knock it if you haven't tried it." Or, "Shut up 'n play yer guitar." nt - clarkjohnsen 10:55:07 03/11/07 (0)
- Re: "Only 1%" - tomservo 10:27:21 03/11/07 (1)
- Re: "Only 1%" - rick_m 11:29:27 03/12/07 (0)
- Heard any "real" ghosts lately? They must be real if you/many hear them...right? (nt) - AJinFLA 10:11:45 03/11/07 (0)
- Maybe 0.1% - Jim Austin 09:09:27 03/11/07 (1)
- Re: Maybe 0.1% - May Belt 16:20:18 03/11/07 (0)
- You sound a bit like one of those nutty "objectivists." - Analog Scott 07:16:07 03/11/07 (0)
Follow Ups
- Re: I am talking about degree of applicability... - morricab 02:54:09 03/14/07 (0)