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In Reply to: my ignorant biased view of reflex, Karlson and pipe speakers posted by freddyi on August 7, 2007 at 08:36:18:
Hi Fred!
Been thinking…I know that’s dangerous.
It seems to me there are some fundamentals of speakers. Some of these fundamentals don’t add up.
The old fashioned no suspension speaker with a nice tight punch when flicked with a fingernail. You know, the Philips 12s or RCA SL12 etc. Boxes don’t seem to control of the bass sound. The cone itself has the bass sound. Qs and Fs are bad but sound is good. The speaker stands alone.
The modern tight suspension. That’s the B&Cs or even JBL 2226H types. Flick the cone and it’s dead. The box creates the bass. Qs and Fs all look great but need a ton of dynamite to come to life. And these types are designed to withstand all but a ton of dynamite.
The floppy suspension woofers. AR, some Pioneers, EV DL15W, Cerwin Vega and a few others that need a larger box to create the bass and when unloaded flop in the breeze. These are mostly low efficiency, rolled surround and very few stand out. But some do. When they do bass can be very articulate and dynamic. Maybe the lack of suspension resistance allows these types to track the signal better at low power. I don’t know.
What I’m thinking is that for simple enclosures in normal homes the old fashioned no suspension and floppy suspensions do the best for bass articulation. Maybe not super deep bass but Kalrsons and horns don’t have super deep bass either. The floppies need acoustic suspension to do their best but some are still articulate in bass reflex.
Otherwise people have to use large horns or crazy designs to get the bass they like. And with dips and peaks in the right places are more enjoyable then the maximum flat types.
I believe you have a good point. It isn’t necessarily about max flat or best T\S parameters or best mathematical designs. There are factors that don’t add up which make systems we like.
Later.
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- Old tight cones vs. new tight cones vs. floppy cones - Scholl 16:07:30 08/07/07 (1)
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