In Reply to: This is encouraging . . . posted by Martin419 on November 7, 2004 at 02:47:31:
Hopefully this will help quiet both sides of the stupid argument over players - the anti-Dualdisc side that is shouting with glee over the disclaimers, and the pro-Dualdisc side that is heaping scorn on the player manufacturers who issued those disclaimers.I understand why Sony and Pioneer, two of the biggest producers of players, would issue disclaimers. Dualdisc IS a non-standard format - the "CD" side isn't a Compact Disc, and the DVD side isn't DVD Forum-approved. Best for the player manufacturers to put out a disclaimer so they won't be sued for any possible compatibility problems, although I think Pioneer's disclaimer in particular was a bit over the top.
I don't currently have a vehicle with a changer, but I know how the magazine-based car changers work, so I suspect there will be few problems with them. The only issue I would be concerned with is scratches on the DVD side of the disc. Some of the magazine-based changers are rather hard on the disc "label" surface" because they've been able to get away with it in the past.
I don't think slot-loaders are going away though. My wife's Golf has a slot-loader, as I mentioned, but the changer was an option (2001 model year). My 2004 Pontiac company car has a slot-loader, changer optional. The most recent version (released this year) of the extremely popular Bose Wave Radio is a slot-loader.
Problems with slot-loaders is of great concern. As I mentioned, I had no problems with the Pontiac's player in that regard, but when the disc got stuck in my Mazda (2002 model year) I was rather upset. You should know that in the interest of science I went through the insert/play/hit eject/pry it out routine several times to ensure that the first time wasn't a fluke :-)
I'm also not quite sure what to make of the increased transport noise on some of the CD players. I'm very familiar with how the transport reacts on a couple of them, and it certainly sounded a lot like what happens when a marginal or damaged CD is played and the transport must engage error correction. The fact that the disc played anyway, with no audible glitches or issues, would seem to ameliorate that though.
I think the Dualdisc still needs some work on the thickness, but actual playability does not appear to be a problem.
Oh, and the limited capacity of Dualdisc doesn't appear to be a problem for this relase - the music content is all of 38 minutes long. This release would easily fit on a single LP :-)
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Follow Ups
- Agreed - racerguy 07:34:30 11/07/04 (3)
- Can you... - Frank.. 02:49:03 11/08/04 (2)
- Yes, I can, and just did - racerguy 13:51:07 11/08/04 (1)
- Now, this is a real issue with DualDisc specs. - Frank.. 02:47:57 11/09/04 (0)