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Tre'

In Reply to: RE: Went to an audio show and there were wifi posted by Dawnrazor on September 18, 2024 at 11:21:16

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you pocket protector types - hifitommy 23:38:22 09/19/24 (8)
don't get it. for a seemingly unknown reason, MUSIC sounds more like itself, even if it were digitally recorded to LP. Famous Blue Raincoat and Brothers in Arms for example.

the newest versions of BT are exemplary in execution also.
...regards...tr
- RE: you pocket protector types - Tre' 10:12:49 09/20/24 (6)
  I had a guy at Mo-Fi tell me the reason to buy their LP of Alison Krauss Live (that was recorded digital) was that "You want my mastering".
  
  Tre'
  Have Fun and Enjoy the Music
  "Still Working the Problem"
  - that's valid - hifitommy 11:08:58 09/20/24 (5)
    there are, and have been some mastering engineers of very high skill levels with superlative judgement.
    
    Doug Sax
    Robert Ludwig
    Kevin Gray
    Bernie Grundman
    
    to name just but a few. now and then, the master tape was never given its due.
    ...regards...tr
    - RE: that's valid - Tre' 07:34:10 09/21/24 (4)
      "there are, and have been some mastering engineers of very high skill levels with superlative judgement. "
      
      And what's to stop them from applying that skill and judgement when they "master" the digital release?
      
      Tre'
      Have Fun and Enjoy the Music
      "Still Working the Problem"
      - there is SOMETHING about LP playback - hifitommy 14:59:26 09/21/24 (3)
        
        In Reply to: RE: that's valid posted by Tre' on September 21, 2024 at 07:34:10
        
        the transcends the so-called perfection of digital. even with hi-rez files, there is a missing life-force factor in the sound. phono or tape just has a feeling of rightness, relaxation, and satisfaction missing from CD or streaming playback.
        
        yes, digital mastering is a special skill and not the same as for vinyl. the closest I hear is SACDs made from analog master tape. and I was an early adopter of SACD and was greatly disappointed in Sony/Philips for not properly supporting the commercial product.
        ...regards...tr
        
        RE: there is SOMETHING about LP playback - Tre' 08:30:19 09/22/24 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: there is SOMETHING about LP playback posted by hifitommy on September 21, 2024 at 14:59:26
        
        "digital mastering is a special skill and not the same as for vinyl"
        
        You just said a mouth full.
        
        Mastering use to mean one thing but now it means something else.
        
        In the old days the mastering engineer had one job, to make the LP sound as much like the master tape as possible. This is not an easy task. There is sonic degradation evolved in the process of cutting the lacquer, platting the lacquer and eventually pressing the vinyl record. A mastering engineer needed to know his equipment well and understand what those sonic losses will be. He needed to compensate for them to minimize their effect and have the final product (the record) sound as much like the master tape as possible. He was a guy in a white lab coat and not part of the creative team.
        
        Then guys like Doug Sax came along and said that they could make the record "sound better" than the master tape. I call this "sweetening". The final tweaking of compression, EQ, etc. to "polish" the mix. So guys like Doug were doing this in addition to the actual mastering required when making LPs.
        
        Mastering for digital (because there is no sonic degradation evolved in the process of copying a digital file to a digital file) is just the "sweetening"/"final polishing" part.
        
        Tre'
        
        Have Fun and Enjoy the Music
        "Still Working the Problem"
        
        if ONLY - hifitommy 11:19:33 09/22/24 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: there is SOMETHING about LP playback posted by Tre' on September 22, 2024 at 08:30:19
        
        it was that simple. i have heard Kevin Gray speak on this subject and it ISN'T.
        ...regards...tr
        https://www.turntablelab.com/products/jelco-hs-25-magnesium- (Open in New Window)
        
        The link doesn't work, please tell me more. - Tre' 15:33:53 09/22/24 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: if ONLY posted by hifitommy on September 22, 2024 at 11:19:33
        
        My post was intended to just be an overview.
        
        Tre'
        Have Fun and Enjoy the Music
        "Still Working the Problem"
- BT? Bell Telephone?? - J. S. Bach 03:47:59 09/20/24 (0)
  Sorry, I just could not resist asking the question from a long-time telephone collector. :> }
  
  Later Gator,
  Dave

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