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Jeez, guys...we are all adults here. How about leaving Romy's posts alone for a change? I, for one, really enjoy his comments and perspective and find his ideas very thought provoking. Also, his asides are great...I love the story of the "hut on chicken's legs," for example, that you can read on his website.
Follow Ups:
Isnt this the high eficiency speaker forum . Are klipsch and altec horn loaded speakers garbage ? Romy says they are . Why is he on this forum then ? I hope nobody on this forum has gotten bored of sharing usefull information to the point of welcoming insult as entertainment . There are some of us who truly appreciate the advice being passed around . Does it really need to be that emotional ?
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David,
I'm with you.
I don't read Romy's posts for anything other than entertainment. I'll never put together a system that will appeal to anyone but me (and possibly a few others) anyway. He's insulting, incendiary, blasphemous...you name it, he's done it, and enraged many along the way.
But I always thought that by the very fact he was posting such outrage, whether I agreed or not, liked it or not, we had a forum with a fairly tolerant, freewheeling attitude to allow it to happen. That's great, and badly needed these days. Credit to Rod.
Hell, that's freedom in my book, and the right way to go about things. Always the blowback, however.
Still, many times I laughed out loud at the sheer velocity and volume of the shitstorm he could stir up.
Tim
Personally, I would just as soon have Romy here too.
However, I think people have the right to use their private property as they see fit. Somewhere along the line, somebody owns the hardware and software that we are using to communicate here, and whoever that is has a right to decide how their property shall be used. Whether directly or via delegated authority, the owner is exercising his property rights in giving Romy the boot.
One compromise solution might be if people had the ability to filter out comments from posters they don't care to read. Such message boards do exist. Obviously implementing a feature like that here would require $ome work on $omebody'$ part . . .
For the benefit of those who would like to review Romy's advice and recommendations on "horns" you can go directly to his web site.A copy of the link is recorded below.
He appears to have an excellent understanding but needs a publicist to edit any material that is posted.
It is unfortunate that all his historical posts on AudioAsylum have been deleted as they sometimes included useful information.
Regards,
Don
The mods only respond to Alerts. And I see a a lot when Romy posts.
Personally, I don't care one way or another. It'd be nice if Romy added something to the discussion. However, if you've read his posts long enough, he doesn't.
Romy just dangles a carrot with a possible nugget of knowledge periodically in a cryptic fashion. Then he usually goes on to insult any of the "morons" in the forum that might ask him to expand on his comment.
While no one knows anything, I've don't recall Romy ever sharing his self proclaimed knowledge with anyone except to knock everything else.
Anyone, if no one comments on Romy, I doubt the mods going to be looking for him.
-Rod
It's a pity though, but that the way it is. I still read his posts, and would never pressed the panic button. All the same, his attitude and lust for attention are tiring.
GD
www.classicaldomain.org
Hi, Rod
I didn't realize that the Moderators waited until the "alert"/panic button was pushed. If this is the case, would the Nellys in the crowd please relax a little, at least long enough for me and a couple of others here to read Romy's posts? Maybe for 24 hours or so.
or Nelly.
I'm counting the time until you come to feel the true sickness of the life form. It is only a matter of time.
The life form has a site, go there to await your turn.
Shirley, Nelly, whomever:
I'm a little sorry that I started this thread, as it has proven to be, more or less, a waste of time...I just wanted to read the posts the Cat made, in their unadulterated entirety. I apologize for wasting bandwidth.
"this thread, as it has proven to be, more or less, a waste of time..."
Well Hell David, this whole goddam hobby is a waste of time anyway, less'n you make a livin' off it. Might as well waste my time one way as another.
Thanks, Tom, you made me smile...and you are quite right.
Best wishes,
David
I share your thoughts on Romy - I actually usually read his posts - he is very good at running down other peoples suggestions and systems but there is very little substance from which one can gain a better understanding of audio .
Some of the posters that come here ( I think of Paul Joppa and Bruce Edgar among a number of others ) share freely of their abundant knowledge - never denigrate anyone else's level of understanding - give anyone a hand up wherever they are . I accept Romy has a good level of knowledge and an evolved system - unfortunately he chooses not to help others achieve that level and that, sadly more than his rudeness, is why I would not miss his Presence. I think it ironic that although he calls us all morons whenever a post he is interested in pops up he responds fairly quickly - I suspect he spends a fair amount of time mixing with morons !!! .
but there is a problem how people here react to his views and opinions. At least The Cat is not involved in any kind of lobby or one of many small groups of interest here which feel obliged to defend this or that opinion.(or interest of this or that AA sponsor -manufacturer) I agree with Ivan 69 "nobody here but chickens".Regards, L
Churchill was involved in a great dialogue with Lady Astor..........
Lady Astor:"If you were my husband, sir, I would poison your tea!"
Churchill:"If you were my wife, madam, I would drink it!"
I would cut him some slack.
Jim N
said of another politician "He's a sheep in sheep's clothing".
Also "Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put."
Interesting that during the Great War when as First Sea Lord his Gallipoli strategy was a fiasco he resigned and went to the Western Front trenches as an infantry colonel. Feel free to apply this lesson to modern leaders.
Again with Nancy Astor
Nancy - " Churchill you are drunk "
Churchill " Yes madam and you are ugly and in the morning I shall be sober"
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modern leaders. They poll and then decide which way to go.
Jim N
con·sen·sus is....
the absence of leadership.
Romy conundrum.
Imaging a stinky and ugly cat with diarrhea , you won’t to have in your house, insists and finds it’s way to get in while you are absent, every day, shits into every single room, leaves its dirt and smell, what would you do, how would you feel ? Well , a cat just follows it’s instincts and is no racional . But when a human behave like this, something must be really wrong. It seems that the beloved Cat got bored at his own Forum, as he does not find enough people anymore that accept his special treatment, and stay away.
But as he said in another Forum : http://www.bd-design.nl/forum/forum_entry.php?id=13907
“ I care less about the audioworld “ , i would love he would also care less abought the “morons” of this forum, and stay away , and share his high evolved audio experience, with whom wants to at his own forum.
Ecclesiastes 10:3
Even as he walks along the road, the fool lacks sense and shows everyone how stupid he is.
Proverbs 12:1
Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge, but he who hates correction is stupid.
Psalm 107:17
Some became fools through their rebellious ways and suffered affliction because of their iniquities.
Proverbs 3:35
The wise inherit honor, but fools he holds up to shame.
Proverbs 10:8
The wise in heart accept commands, but a chattering fool comes to ruin.
Proverbs 10:18
He who conceals his hatred has lying lips, and whoever spreads slander is a fool.
Proverbs 10:23
A fool finds pleasure in evil conduct, but a man of understanding delights in wisdom.
Proverbs 12:16
A fool shows his annoyance at once, but a prudent man overlooks an insult.
Proverbs 13:19
A longing fulfilled is sweet to the soul, but fools detest turning from evil.
Proverbs 17:28
Even a fool is thought wise if he keeps silent, and discerning if he holds his tongue.
• Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no pleasure in understanding but delights in airing his own opinions.
• Proverbs 19:1
Better a poor man whose walk is blameless than a fool whose lips are perverse.
• Proverbs 26:1
Like snow in summer or rain in harvest, honor is not fitting for a fool.
• Proverbs 12:15
The way of a fool seems right to him, but a wise man listens to advice.
You said: Imaging a stinky and ugly cat with diarrhea , you won’t to have in your house, insists and finds it’s way to get in while you are absent, every day, shits into every single room, leaves its dirt and smell, what would you do, how would you feel ? Well , a cat just follows it’s instincts and is no racional . But when a human behave like this, something must be really wrong. It seems that the beloved Cat got bored at his own Forum, as he does not find enough people anymore that accept his special treatment, and stay away.
I have 4 teenagers of my own plus assorted friends/minions/hanger-oners in my house....oh, and a mutt---I can relate. I'm an atheist, so I won't quote scripture, but I will fall back on this chestnut:
"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me." Anon.
I also suggest that you reread your biblical references...and take them to heart.
Hi David,
I too really wanted to like Romy. His take on the commercial hi fi world is fairly accurate.
It ends there.
Romy is pure psychopathology. It could be audio, it could be anything else. Any subject. He is your classical trope. He MUST be center stage, must put down everyone else, MUST receive adulation, etc, ad. nauseum. He is sick. Look at his posts, or even his own website. There is really very little there, very little substance, just this fake I can't write in English because I am some tortured genius shit, which is exactly that. He can write perfectly well, but his fake autism is a wonderful guard to anyone actually calling him on anything.
He is a bully, so what, but what's worse, he's a liar. I've seen him denigrate the good work of others for his own twisted ends, and I'll be nailing him for that every single time he posts on this asylum. I could care less whether the moderators delete his responses or not. He can run his own website like the USSR he came from, but this is a different place.
Putin can poison his ex agents abroad with impunity. This little shit is not getting diplomatic immunity.
Best,
Jonathan
Autism isnt a spelling disorder,wish you would stop miss using the word as a insult. I have to deal with autism daily I dont need to see the word used as a insult in a audio forum very poor taste indeed you are more like old romy than you think.
hi Jonathan
the Cat posted a thread at his forum
http://www.goodsoundclub.com/Forums/ShowPost.aspx?postID=4525#4525 :
" I absolutely not looking for any acceptance at AA and the reasons why AA deletes my posts is because it is ultimately my choose and the AA's dirt does what I pretty much wants them to do.. Now, it your chose to think why... "
hahaha.... he really does not give up, even hissing from the last hole, his sing is " i am smarter than all you #$$%%¨¨&&*() guys "
you're kidding, right? everything was fine between you and romy until he visited you at oswald's mill. he ate your food (which btw he told me were probably the best meals he'd ever eaten in his life) and enjoyed your hospitality (he went on and on about what a great guy you were, the amazing food you cooked, and the magnificent job you did restoring the place). but when you asked him what he thought of your beloved vintage hifi, he told you what he really thought, of course, instead of being 'polite' and lying like most us in the same situation - he thought it sounded horrible. somebody took it personally, i see. suddenly, you became the official romy watch dog.
btw, i find it funny that after all this time, and after all of your "I'll be nailing him for that every single time he posts on this asylum", he still has never, ever mentioned the above visit, on his own site or any other.
you seem like a cool guy, jonathan. really
Over and over again, in meatspace and cyberspace, the life form plays nice for just enough time to catch one off guard and say the most foul things. The life form is not to be tolerated and that treatment is well earned many times over by the life form itself.
Sad ... disgusting, disappointing, unbelievable.
Inmates attacking other inmates?
Over Romy! An infection of the virtual realm, since first migrating from the layer of pond scum it was borne upon. Spreading its chancres to the furthest reaches of cyberspace. For years. Unending. In perpetuity. We aren't the only benfactors of his fine grace and airs. The entire net reeks of him. And yet some here in HiEff praise the stench, and exalt the orifice which produces it.
Amazing. Truly.
n
Nobody here but us chickens.
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(just money) .. :-)
Don't know Romy from Adam, never met him. And .... could care less about him. Entirely indifferent to the f'ing freak. Don't read his shite, or visit his 'lair.' And don't even bother expending my dislike on him. Though yes, he has attacked me on another more social, less equipment oriented site (now defunct). When he did, I came to realize in that moment, that there are *ssholes. And then there is Romy (who had simply materialized in the thread out of nowhere, and then proceeded to take a dump in my face).
What I do know is that real hatred towards him, exists across the net entire. Real fierce hatred. From a not inconsequential number of people. Cyberspace gives Romy what the atomic world does not. A strong measure of immunity from the consequences of his actions. Were Romy to say the things he does, to people he has never met, to their face. On any street, of any city in America. Would give him a new view of the world (from his back, looking up at the stars).
Myself, dislike what he does to any/every forum, thread or discussion. EVERY time. Destroying all calm, any ease, fine goodwill, and enjoyment. He rampantly slaughters the fun, with wholesale disregard. Feel free to call me stupid for letting the pustule take another minute of my time. It shan't happen again.
n
Nobody here but us chickens.
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they say it with a smile. Guess what I'm saying.
May I suggest that if we are going to criticize someone's outrageous communications, our own communications need to be clearly distinguishable from those of the person we are criticizing . . .
If you did, you would not post for "lightening up".
It is only a matter of time until that life form will turn on you.
"May your Wife get cancer" is not human statement or needs to be tolerated or forgotten.
go cat go!
I enjoy Romys posts also.
He has made some posts that show he has knowledge of horn operation.
At the same time often enough, I would imagine some of those engaged in discussions with him wished they had been wearing a rain coat as he occasionally has trouble knowing when and where it is appropriate to “unzip and spray”.
It is actually possible to discuss things and disagree without name-calling or insults.
Best,
Tom
To steal a quote from another forum goer:
"audio disputes are the most vicious and bitter form of disputes, because the stakes are so low."
I think Romy is quite self-diluted and tactless. However, every once in a [great] while he says something worth pondering.
That sounds like something I would say, and I certainly have about arcane academic controversies in the Liberal Arts especially, but why not let the forum members sort the facts from the opinions? I really resent the pre-K Moderators' editing content. I know, I know...I can already hear the cries of, "Start your own damned (I'm sure the Moderators would prefer "darned," "danged," or "dad-burned, "etc.") forum if you don't like it!"
BTW, I find Romy's "tactlessness" refreshing most of the time. I don't think it is gratuitous, I think it is mostly done for the sake of economy.
Speaking of Romyisms, this is a choice one:
" Well, all that I can suggest you is to stick the Lowther in your own ass, preferably with a phase plug. I am not kidding and I am not being rude. When you understand that the Lowther idiocy is condemned to produce the shitty results then all you question will be answered."
I have several that I saved before they were deleted from the archives. I never could find the one that was my all-time favorite though.
eso
nt
There are toilet-trained cats, you know. Instead of saying something really rude like "you have sh!t for brains," he could get the same point across without being so crudely offensive, e.g., "I respectfully submit that a peek inside your cranium would reveal that in your case, a lobotomy would accomplish the same thing as a colostomy, and vice-versa" . . .
Anyway, we should remember that Romy needs to be put in some context to be properly appreciated. I hear that Vladimir Putin is thinking of hiring Romy as a consultant to help him improve his public relations with the West . . .
CW wrote:
Anyway, we should remember that Romy needs to be put in some context to be properly appreciated. I hear that Vladimir Putin is thinking of hiring Romy as a consultant to help him improve his public relations with the West . . .
Great news! Romy's straight talk will be most welcome...by me at least. Unfortunately, most diplomats and politicians are just as thin-skinned as the Moderators here are, so I think I will start a construction company specializing in bomb shelters or maybe a "russian as a second language" school.
Best wishes,
David
"Romy's straight talk will be most welcome...by me at least"
Only until you say something that doesn't toe his line, and you become the object of one of his psychotic rants. It's not a matter of if, only when.
Well, I guess if you have so little confidence in your ability to design and build speakers, or in your ability to evaluate them, that you are somehow seriously hurt by one of Romy's rants, then yeah, guess it could be a problem.
Nobody here but us chickens.
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If you wanna hear what the "cat" has to say, ya gotta get up early before the moderators on the West coast get out of bed.
As for the thin-skinned whiners who turn their nose up at the smell of a little cat shit?
Sorry, no sympathy for you!
Romy is right on the mark WAY too much of the time for some folks here.
Nobody here but us chickens.
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David,
Just because you like Romy`s `cute` little stories doesn`t give him the right to insult folks all over the internet. If he wants to act like a jerk he`s going to have to be prepared for some backlash. There still are
some people with scruples in this world who won`t take abuse from the self chosen.
Dan
All public forums have rules and community norms. I too enjoyed Romy's audio observations, however I recognize his verbal abuse of other asylum members often crosses the line and goes beyond what is accepted here. I am afraid your appeal will not be granted simply because it is Romy himself who refuses to behave like an adult, exhibit just a little self control. Can you imagine what every board on the internet would be like if everyone could empty their bladder anytime they liked? regards, T
Jean-Francois Lessard 2A3 PP amp
Marantz 7T Preamp
Klipschorns w/ALK xovers
Sony CX350&CX-230 cd changers
MSB link DACIII w24/96k
MSB digital director
Luxman PD-272 TT
Technics M85 Cassette
OK, I guess that if it were a matter of cost, maybe editing content to save bandwidth would be a legitimate practice. But, as we all know, tolerating Romy is, well, priceless...so why can't we do it? Is it just a question of his style of expression?
I like Romy and visit his website on occasion. There's no doubt that he has great experience and knowledge about audio/horns. And he's even willing to help people if they do their homework first.
But, when he gets a wild hair up his ass, he can really go after people. And he often lacks the ability to let go of things or people that bother him. The Bored gave Romy many "time outs" to calm down and he would create endless sockpuppets/false identities to continue harassing people or badmouth the Bored. I'm not talking one or two false identities, more like 20 or 30, maybe more.
Like it or not, this is their house and they do not have tolerate someone calling them names non-stop. Nonetheless, Romy is an acquired taste and definitely has a lot of interesting insights o share on music, horn design, life, etc. If only he could really that info in a more palatable manner.
...
Well, not only Romy, but Tom Brennan and myself, among others have been known to call BS and sometimes not so nicely. And I've mixed words with both of them on occasion too.I see no harm there and there are people that I've decided not to bother even reading what they post anymore, let alone responding to it. Just because someone posts something does not mean I am required to read it, especially if there is reason to believe it will be abusive. Rather than having someone else's values imposed upon me, I'd much rather rely upon an my own judgment and remain tolerant of differences: I don't want big brother or a babysitter state.
Whatever the beef between The Bored and Romy, it is old and very deep and unlikely to go away any time soon. For that matter I'd like to see Magnetar back, but that isn't likely to happen either.
eso
Nooooooooo, I don't think that's likely to happen any time soon!
Nobody here but us chickens.
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Mike deleted his account and left. I recall there was a blow out about something, but I've long forgotten over what. I just looked and he wasn't banned or anything or if he was it was temporary.
-Rod
zzz
...but even 5 year-olds can sing to you about "sticks and stones...." and generally seem to grasp the concept. Maybe the moderators skipped school when that lesson was taught...or are the moderators pre-K? BTW, scruples are wonderful things to have, but why does it follow that possessing them should make one immune from verbal abuse?
I don't post here often but have been watching this romy cat for a while. Most statements about him are true. Seemingly learned yet painfully arrogant. People who object to the censoring of posts on forums typically fly the "freedom of expression" flag and bash the moderators pretty hard. The thing is, and maybe it's spelled out somewhere here I haven't looked...is that a forum like this can have whatever rules they want. If they desire to enforce a level of net etiquette then so be it, after all they are running the forum and are probably not making much money if any at all running this site. Niche forums like this are generally done out of love, not coin. And the bottom line is, if you don't like it, find another place to fit in.
It's true that words, like talk is cheap...but...I say,
support the moderators here...they make this place work.
And also this is a pretty cool spot on the web. :)
David,
Admiring people like Romy is your privilege. I don`t...
Dan
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