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• Had a bad day, John? - KlausR. 23:34:05 05/17/07 (5)
  In Reply to: Re: We had not refined the terminology yet. posted by john curl on May 17, 2007 at 21:23:08:

  Re: 'Absolute polarity exists but it's not important!

  AS a matter of fact, yes, that is essentially the core message. When controlled listening tests show that polarity inversion is audible on some selected signals but not on normal music program material, then I ask you why should those people who do listen to normal music program material worry about polarity?

  Or is there something I'm still missing?

  
  Klaus
  
  

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  • Re: Had a bad day, John? - john curl 13:38:50 05/18/07 (4)
    In Reply to: Had a bad day, John? posted by KlausR. on May 17, 2007 at 23:34:05:

    Klaus: There are three phases to a new idea.
    1. It doesn't exist.
    2. It exists, but it is not important.
    3. We invented it.
    Europeans are especially adept at this, from my experience.
    
    

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    • Re: Had a bad day, John? - john curl 15:44:03 05/20/07 (0)
      In Reply to: Re: Had a bad day, John? posted by john curl on May 18, 2007 at 13:38:50

      I was only reflecting the 3 times some European engineer took my friendly input and ran with it, without reference to me. It has not happened as much in the USA, percentage wise.
      The 3 phases of an idea is in 'Murphy's Laws', and is a standard parable in the engineering world.
      
      

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    • Now it's throwing mud, you're improving by the day,John! - KlausR. 23:03:11 05/18/07 (2)
      In Reply to: Re: Had a bad day, John? posted by john curl on May 18, 2007 at 13:38:50:

      What does that have to do with the issue being discussed and my questions? Please note that FACTS can convince or good reasoning. So far, I'm not seeing any of those here.

      Please answer the question, why should anyone bother if polarity inversion is audible only with test signals? And what does the Schroeder paper tell the reader about polarity?

      
      Klaus
      
      

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      • Re: Now it's throwing mud, you're improving by the day,John! - john curl 23:11:09 05/18/07 (1)
        In Reply to: Now it's throwing mud, you're improving by the day,John! posted by KlausR. on May 18, 2007 at 23:03:11:

        Just read and think about your most recent statements about absolute polarity. The answer is there. If you are so dense that you cannot accept absolute polarity and that it might be important to some people, well, tough nuts! You are ignoring what I have known and worked with for more than 30 years. It is just a waste of time to put any real effort to get you to appreciate this, and I have better things to do and say.
        
        

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        • Now it's insults, it's getting better by the minute! - KlausR. 00:17:59 05/19/07 (0)
          In Reply to: Re: Now it's throwing mud, you're improving by the day,John! posted by john curl on May 18, 2007 at 23:11:09:

          And you still did not answer my questions. What does the Schroeder paper say about polarity inversion on real music, because that's the only issue that matters here.

          Read after me : I DO ACCEPT ABSOLUTE POLARITY. I also accept that it might be important to some people. However, unless there has been provided solid evidence in controlled listening tests using real music played through appropriate audio systems I think that these people are subject to self-delusion. Self-delusion in the sense that they might use, unawaringly, audio systems which make polarity inversion easily audible by adding e.g. distortion.

          
          Klaus
          
          

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