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Yes, electrons go both ways on a wire, but not at the same time.

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Geoffkait

In Reply to: RE: Need help determining direction of HQ speaker cable posted by Kal Rubinson on July 25, 2024 at 08:17:25

Both + and - wires exhibit directionality. The idea that wire or fuse in an AC circuits is not directional is an old wive's tale.

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Of course but ................................................. - Kal Rubinson 15:10:48 07/25/24 (13)
but their experience in each direction should equal.
- But they aren't equal - Geoffkait 15:23:26 07/25/24 (12)
  The signal in one direction on each + and - wire moves the speaker diaphragm, the signal in the opposite direction does nothing. So that's why you I want the "correct direction" for both wires to be towards the speakers for any cable.
  - RE: But they aren't equal - Palustris 08:22:27 07/26/24 (11)
    "The signal in one direction on each + and - wire moves the speaker diaphragm, the signal in the opposite direction does nothing."
    
    How is this possible with a signal composed of an alternating current? OK, 'The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy' says, "anything is possible in an infinite universe;" but I would really like to know how is this possible? Please stick to the concept of matter, its fundamental constituents, its motion and behavior through space and time, and the related entities of energy and force in your response.
    - RE: But they aren't equal - Geoffkait 11:14:39 07/26/24 (10)
      Electrons (moving charges) move more easily WITH the grain - the direction of the deformation of the crystal lattice structure of the wire. Like porcupine quills.
      - But if that's the case . . . - Brian H P 15:12:15 07/26/24 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: But they aren't equal posted by Geoffkait on July 26, 2024 at 11:14:39
        
        . . . shouldn't we be equally concerned about the directionality of ALL the conductors in our systems? All the internal wiring in amplifiers, speakers, and source components? What about the windings of crossover inductors and power supply transformers (which should be wound counterclockwise in the Southern hemisphere)? What about PCB traces? The leads of resistors and nonpolar capacitors? How many manufacturers take meticulous care to insure that all these conductors are properly directional?
        
        RE: But if that's the case . . . - Geoffkait 15:22:43 07/26/24 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: But if that's the case . . . posted by Brian H P on July 26, 2024 at 15:12:15
        
        Eggs Ackley! Transformers, internal wiring, capacitors, inductors, internal speaker wiring, etc. oh, and thnx for reading my posts. :-)
        
        Edits: 07/26/24 07/26/24
      - RE: But they aren't equal - Palustris 12:44:34 07/26/24 (7)
        
        In Reply to: RE: But they aren't equal posted by Geoffkait on July 26, 2024 at 11:14:39
        
        What is your authoritative citation for your asseveration:
        
        "The signal in one direction on each + and - wire moves the speaker diaphragm, the signal in the opposite direction does nothing."
        
        To the average layman it sounds like total nonsense. So I am certain you will want to provide a scientific source to provide verisimilitude to your declaration.
        
        RE: But they aren't equal - Geoffkait 13:35:12 07/26/24 (6)
        
        In Reply to: RE: But they aren't equal posted by Palustris on July 26, 2024 at 12:44:34
        
        A lot of things in this hobby sound weird to the average layman. That's why they call them controversial. It's not that I don't enjoy a Brer Fox and Tar Baby routine from time to time.
        
        "That's why they call them controversial." - Kal Rubinson 07:03:32 07/28/24 (5)
        
        In Reply to: RE: But they aren't equal posted by Geoffkait on July 26, 2024 at 13:35:12
        
        This means they are not proven/accepted facts.
        
        RE: "That's why they call them controversial." - Geoffkait 08:17:40 07/28/24 (4)
        
        In Reply to: RE: "That's why they call them controversial." posted by Kal Rubinson on July 28, 2024 at 07:03:32
        
        Proven and accepted by whom? The average audiophile? The average guy on the street?
        
        Edits: 07/28/24 07/28/24
        
        Proven and accepted by the average electrical engineer? (nt) - Brian H P 13:20:16 07/29/24 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: "That's why they call them controversial." posted by Geoffkait on July 28, 2024 at 08:17:40
        
        nt
        
        Yeah, sure. Nt - Geoffkait 13:46:34 07/29/24 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Proven and accepted by the average electrical engineer? (nt) posted by Brian H P on July 29, 2024 at 13:20:16
        
        Nt
        
        RE: "That's why they call them controversial." - Kal Rubinson 15:24:13 07/28/24 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: "That's why they call them controversial." posted by Geoffkait on July 28, 2024 at 08:17:40
        
        You know who but I know you won't accept it................and I will no longer be here to hear your reply.
        
        (It was only an errant mouse-click that got me into this strange place.)
        
        How do you know? Can you read my mind? Nt - Geoffkait 04:36:58 07/29/24 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: "That's why they call them controversial." posted by Kal Rubinson on July 28, 2024 at 15:24:13
        
        Nt

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