RE: Name dropper!

RE: Name dropper!

Posted by jea48 (A) on April 19, 2025 at 13:35:20

In Reply to: Name dropper! posted by Geoffkait on April 19, 2025 at 10:04:01:

More names.

15 years, you still don't get it.
@herman tried his best to explain to you how electricity actually works 15 years ago, and several years after that. The Late @almarg tried his best to explain how electrical energy travels from a source to the load. It ain't through the wires... @kijanki tried his best for several years. I provided countless Web links of the writing of men like Ralph Morrison. Nope you said Morrison had it wrong too.

So up until you, no longer posted on Audiogon, I would tell you the signal energy travels in the form of an EM, electromagnetic, wave from the source to the load in one direction at near the speed,(50% to 90%), of light.

Because of the low frequencies wires are needed to guide the EM wave in the spaces between the conductors.

The source creates the energy and provides the voltage potential that creates the electric field around the conductors. That in turn causes the electrons, electric charges, to move in the wire, slower than cold maple syrup, ( see drift Velocity). The movement of electric charge creates the magnetic fields around the wires. Combined, they form the signal energy EM wave.

Using a 120V 60 Hz Ac generator for the source and a light bulb as the connected load.
The electric charge, vibrates, oscillates, 60 times a second in the wire. It hardly moves at all in the wire. Your theory, unless you have changed it, the electric charges carry the signal. Again, Google electric charge drift Velocity. Using your theory when you flip the light switch on it's going to take an awful long time before the bulb lights.

It's the EM energy wave that travels at 50% to 90% the speed of light that lights the bulb. Flip the switch on, light bulb lights instantly. Electrical energy is transferred from the source to the filament of the bulb. Not the current through the filament in the bulb.

Current leaves the source and returns to the source. Current is not consumed... Energy is transferred from the source and consumed, (transferred to another form of energy), by the load. Energy does not return to the source.
"Conductors end up directing energy flow - not carrying the energy."
An audio signal does not return to the source.

This is the first audio cable designer, (holds many U.S. Patients) that talks about signal EM energy waves. (At least the only one I have read about.)

Galen Gareis explains it more eloquently than I could ever do...

QUOTE:
TIME...
Galen Gareis, August 22, 2019

1.0 ELECTROMAGNETIC WAVE PROPAGATION

The issue - What do we actually LISTEN to on a cable? What is the "root" reason to be for a cable?

Cables exist to move the "signal" from one place to another, but few really consider WHAT that signal is. The signal we "use" is the electromagnetic wave moving down the cable at the group velocity of propagation of the dielectric.

Read all of the White Paper here.
https://iconoclastcable.com/blog/time/

Galen Gareis, Engineer and Designer of Iconoclast Audio (Open in New Window)

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Follow Ups Full Thread

Topic - Asking AI for tweaks - emailtim 11:40:46 03/29/25 (20)

Hey, ask AI about fuse directionality. Nt - Geoffkait 16:48:58 03/29/25 (19)

OK - Tre' 17:08:56 03/29/25 (18)

Might as well ask about cable directionality too :) - uncle mag 17:40:32 03/31/25 (16)

Yes, and transformers and power cords, too. Nt - Geoffkait 04:32:17 04/01/25 (15)

Proper primary winding AC polarity orientation of an audio power transformer can be measured. nt - jea48 07:07:48 04/18/25 (14)

Proper primary winding AC polarity orientation? What the ding dong? - Geoffkait 14:22:18 04/18/25 (12)

RE: Proper primary winding AC polarity orientation? What the ding dong? - jea48 17:17:19 04/18/25 (11)

That's a completely separate issue. I'm referring to the wire itself. All wire. Nt - Geoffkait 03:00:39 04/19/25 (10)

Ya, you already said that. You are repeating yourself. - jea48 07:28:56 04/19/25 (9)

And you still didn't get it. Nt - Geoffkait 07:32:00 04/19/25 (8)

LOL, what didn't I get Geoff? nt. - jea48 09:14:01 04/19/25 (7)

How electricity works, as usual. Nt - Geoffkait 09:15:43 04/19/25 (6)

LOL, Same 'O' Geoff. Still believe the signal travels in the wire? nt. - jea48 09:37:00 04/19/25 (5)

What's really funny is you don't even know what the signal is. - Geoffkait 09:38:37 04/19/25 (4)

The Hidden Story Behind Maxwell's Equations - jea48 09:43:17 04/19/25 (3)

Name dropper! - Geoffkait 10:04:01 04/19/25 (2)

RE: Name dropper! - jea48 13:35:20 04/19/25 (1)

RE: Name dropper! - Geoffkait 13:48:15 04/19/25 (0)

RE: Proper primary winding AC polarity orientation of an audio power transformer can be measured. nt - Geoffkait 07:15:06 04/18/25 (0)

So much for AI. Nice try, though. I bet you believe it. - Geoffkait 13:59:57 03/31/25 (0)

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RE: Name dropper! - jea48 13:35:20 04/19/25 (1)

RE: Name dropper! - Geoffkait 13:48:15 04/19/25 (0)

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