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In Reply to: Comments on the comments :-) posted by David Aiken on April 12, 2007 at 23:37:06:
If we’re agreed about the logic that you can’t prove a negative, then a statement that something cannot work is unprovable. Who are you responding to who says that Bybees “don’t work�You’re mistaken in regarding a statement that something *has* an effect as equivalent to a statement that it doesn’t have that effect, at least in standard logic, and you are *certainly* mistaken in regarding them as equivalent from the point of view of science, since the whole point of scientific method is to subject claims to rigorous tests, there being an infinite supply of bullshit and only, from the standpoint of science, contingent truths. This is a routine confusion on this board: people asked how they know A has effect B simply repeat their assertion and retort “prove it doesn’t.†Anyone who argues in that way does not understand where scientific knowledge comes from.
Re point 3, the point, if you follow the link, is not only does the thing measure like a .025 ohm inductively-wound power resistor but you crack open the casing and lo and behold it *is* a .025 inductively-wound power resistor.
On your final paragraph, Bybee defenders are slippery about what “works†means. I have a clear idea about the difference between a car that works and a car that doesn’t work, and I imagine my idea of that difference is pretty much the same as yours. I have a pretty good idea of *how* a car works, too, and I’m confident that there’s not a single detail of its working that I couldn’t figure out. Moreover the soundness of the engineering is *directly* connected to the working or not working of the car – it’s not as though they’re in two separate worlds.
Medicine is a poor analogy to consumer electronics. Large parts of biological functioning are still understood only sketchily, and organisms are unbelievably complex systems. Consumer electronics by contrast are made by humans according to well-understood principles, and by comparison with a human body, they’re unbelievably simple! You can make a functioning amplifier in an afternoon out of a handful of parts; you can’t build a biological organism out of parts no matter how long you work at it.
And re your last sentence, who are you speaking for? I don’t know if I qualify as an audiophile, but there are quite a few of us here who are genuinely interested in how and why things work, who have built things partly in order to learn, and who find the world enriched when we understand it better.
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- Re: Comments on the comments :-) - CD 02:09:49 04/14/07 (1)
- Re: Comments on the comments :-) - David Aiken 14:08:02 04/14/07 (0)
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