RE: The most expensive 12AX7s - TFK, Mullard, GEC.....

Posted by ivan_terrible (P) on July 3, 2024 at 00:45:54

In Reply to: RE: The most expensive 12AX7s - TFK, Mullard, GEC..... posted by Triode_Kingdom on July 3, 2024 at 00:17:40:

"don't use me as a launchpad for your personal pet peeves"

eh? you misread!

"I don't want the dirty old sound of the badly working old designs"

I don't think that has any personal ref to you at all, I was referring to the vast majority of PRC made stuff saturating the market now.

As for my experiences
"I simply don't care about a few watts give or take."

I certainly DO are about a few watts give or take.
It's all about the dreaded distortion curve of valve amps, which spirals upwards from anything over about 30% of max.

A few watts give or take is a giant sized problem for an amp of 10W when it it only delivers 5-6 cleanly.
It leaves no margin for peaks.

Drive a bit hard and you get low resolution mud with massive clipping
+
anything over 1-2W and up comes the IMD, but of course people are claiming they can hear the difference of the 12AX7 when the amp is actually incapable of managing 14 bit resolution.

It's clear that magic dust is just bollox, and more and more web sites are using it to jack up prices with more and more hype.

Add to that most of the current transformer winders today (as many have noted) make glorified guitar amp OPT nothing so close to hifi unless you blow those mega bucks.

I had some guy going on about Cayin SET last week driving mega buck headphones....but he wouldn't have it - when I state he clearly LIKES distortion.
ASR when measured both bits found they were just horrible.

Proof in my book was changing a 50W amp from a miserable barely 20W clean to delivering 50W with nice low distortion.
That is a quantum leap in performance which is very very audible esp with 2 in stereo.

To be fair a lot of that hinges around very poor PSU performance especially on those old classics.

I never made a single remark "imply that my standards are lacking".
I dunno where you got that from!

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Topic - The most expensive 12AX7s - TFK, Mullard, GEC..... - andy evans 08:57:53 07/01/24 (13)

RE: The most expensive 12AX7s - TFK, Mullard, GEC..... - ivan_terrible 22:30:22 07/02/24 (2)

RE: The most expensive 12AX7s - TFK, Mullard, GEC..... - Triode_Kingdom 00:17:40 07/03/24 (1)

RE: The most expensive 12AX7s - TFK, Mullard, GEC..... - ivan_terrible 00:45:54 07/03/24 (0)

RE: The most expensive 12AX7s - TFK, Mullard, GEC..... - Jim McShane 14:08:31 07/02/24 (5)

Scarcity = High Pricing... Swedish Standard 33S29B - opalize 13:30:55 07/03/24 (0)

Ah....GECs are scarce..... - andy evans 02:43:36 07/03/24 (0)

RE: The most expensive 12AX7s - TFK, Mullard, GEC..... - ivan_terrible 00:54:16 07/03/24 (2)

Bangy-Bang - Byrd69 15:44:05 07/03/24 (1)

RE: Bangy-Bang - Triode_Kingdom 19:07:32 07/03/24 (0)

RE: The most expensive 12AX7s - TFK, Mullard, GEC..... - ivan_terrible 01:10:03 07/02/24 (3)

Where's My Thumbs-Up Button? (nt) - Triode_Kingdom 02:14:15 07/02/24 (2)

RE: Where's My Thumbs-Up Button? (nt) - ivan_terrible 08:52:07 07/02/24 (1)

Yep, Been There - Triode_Kingdom 14:56:00 07/02/24 (0)

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