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In Reply to: Re: Well....... posted by J on December 26, 2005 at 08:45:02:
Nice post, thanks very much for commenting.....My point was that alternative/indie started to disappear when I was going, and now it's pretty much gone. Wherein you have acts who were either on majors, or close to being on majors, or having majors distribution deals: go backwards and sell their stuff via a website, or a podcast on a website, - check the Tragically Hip. Now, Bruce Springsteen competes head to head with the Slow Poisoners. Everyone is on a major; essentially....
But, - my main point is that there is a cultivated Indie sound. I guess that you can call it alternative. But, - alternative to me implies a more narrow definition. Nirvana, Husker Du, Meat Puppets, Replacements, (Paul Westerberg), X, - were always Indepedent, - Indie bands. Check the Shoutoutlouds, - they're a new indy band, with an indy band sound, - they're not going to go around talking about Ethiopia and having meetings with President Bush. (Not that I think that there's anything wrong with Bono doing what he's doing). People included Jane's Addiction as alternative, - which I never understood. I always understood "alternative" to be anything that is "different" from 70s classic rock that was on US radio. So, a dance band like New Order was called alternative in my town, - huh?
Indy bands are cultivating a sound, and looking for an audience. Yes, it's alternative, but there's this certain something, this small, humble, "F&*K You, this is for us and our 50 friends" kind of attitude. Husker Du was a pretty great band to me. I'm not criticizing them at all, - they stayed true to their small, humble, approach.
Husker Du, Guided by Voices, etc. were not ever going to go out and get a new vocalist who could sing: (or sing in a more likable/commercial manner). These songs were their songs and they were going to sing them. By and large, this was about 3 or 4 people with guitars, aggressively belting and crudely, belting out their songs. No cast of thousands, no horn sections, humble, non-drama, "I don't care much about anything."The Clash, the Jam, New Order, Sex Pistols/Public Image, U2 etc... were talking about being the best band in the world. They wanted fame, stardom, and their music everywhere, and as many fans as they could get, with their drummers screwed up on heroin on late night talk shows...
The Dead Kennedys were different than Nirvana, Husker Du, in that respect too. Jello wanted the world....
Yeah, - I didn't mean to say that Lou created the earth, - the Velvets are part of that, as well at least a few other groups at the time as well....
Cheers J, hope that you're well....
"Swimming in the river that floods the neighborhood, I could call to you, but it would do no good"
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